we so need a second loo

I agree Petunia, DH spends much longer in our bathroom than I do and has taken to asking whether I will be requiring the use of it in the next half hour. Am I bovvered ? I will just use the guest bathroom.

I know how you feel petunia we don't have a downstairs lavatory and its a nuisance. It was real problem when I fractured my pelvis and was in a lot of pain. Unfortunately we have no space suitable.

I agree, you need a separate loo, there must be somewhere you can squeeze one in, with macerators you can use much smaller piping. Under the stairs maybe? Box off part of a room? Why not ask for builder recommendations and get a few ideas and quotes so you know what is feasible?

Do not put up with being turfed out and having to live with the pong any longer! DH takes the cryptic crossword in there, if we didn't have a separate one I would be in agony!

Oh Petunia how I agree with you! I take furosemide.....which can lead to an emergency , he says he can’t move. I have been known to have to hurry to Tesco!

We live in a bungalow with three loos!! How decadent is that??!! The GC quite like choosing their loo when the call comes.

petunia......I know what you mean. My house is a 1930s place, which had been extended by the previous owner. The bathroom was downstairs, but the actual toilet is separate and is downstairs (a real pain when I have to get up in the night for a wee). My husband created a bathroom upstairs, by using part of my bedroom and part of the landing. The toilet is still downstairs, as there would be a massive amount of digging down to the mains sewer, we were told.

Luckygirl................how I envy you all those toilets.

Between houses we went into a rented house for a few months that had no downstairs loo. It was then that I realised how essential it was for us and didn't consider any houses without one.

The only problem is that my son in law insists on using the downstairs loo for the full monty and stinks the place out. I was given some of that VI Poo spray as a joke present but it works. Maybe you could ask your husband to use some of that if he insists on using the loo when you want to be in the bathroom. It has a lovely lemon smell as it is made with lemon oil. I'm not advertising but it has worked for us.

Oh I too yearn for an extra loo! It's me, though, that is usually found hogging the littlest room for too long . We probably could find the room for a downstairs one to be installed, but I can't bear the thought of all the upheaval it would entail, all the mess. One day, one day....

In our previous home we had a second loo installed in the cupboard under the stairs. It fitted nicely into this remarkably small area; there was just room for the loo and a small basin. It was great to have it, and we were so glad we had it done. (And when we came to sell the house, it was a significant factor in its favour - many buyers expect second loos now.) It also made us sort out all the crap stuff we kept under the stairs; we bought a small cupboard for light bulbs etc. and we put the vacuum somewhere else. Recommended as an investment in your health and home - might it be worth you getting a loan for such a project?

Those systems which use macerators(sp) are a good idea but boy are they noisy?
My friends bought a dormer bungalow with two bedrooms uostairs and had a snall shower/loo made out of part of the landing and part of a bedroom
The loo would wake everyone up if it was flushed during the night.
It was so awkward to me that I chose to stay in a near by Premier Inn went I went over to see them.

Petunia, maybe he would enjoy a caravan in the back garden all of his own with a porta potty in it .

Ha ha. Thanks for all your replies. Unfortunately we have no stairs to put a guzunda. And our rooms arent spacious enough to steal room for a loo. The only way is outwards-which involves, an extension, drains, moving the greenhouse etc., etc.,etc.

I have days when I think-sod it, just extend. Others when I think-first world problem, just be grateful for indoor plumbing. Today is a sod it day

If you have 2 double bedrooms why not make one into a single and add a loo?

Extend!

I think it was Michael Caine who said "The secret of a happy marriage is separate bathrooms".

I would extend , and the sooner the better , when the GSs visit it is a couple of hours before I can brave the guest loo

I once stayed at a 4 star hotel which boasted en-suites. What it really was was a converted cupboard, the shower and loo just big enough to function and no more.
However it gave me an idea and on returning home I had a look at my own cupboard in the eaves and phoned a plumber, who said there's plenty room enough so for the past 10 years we've had a spare shower room. The loo is round rather than oblong to make space for legs but this was only a problem when you want to put a baby training seat over it. I often wonder how we managed before we had a spare loo. I can remember resorting to a potty in the night when I was pregnant...
As others have said, there are macerating loos now which don't require much plumbing.
www.plumbingsupply.com/when-and-where-to-use-a-macerating-toilet.html

petunia do you have a staircase? If so I know of a few people who have created a loo in the understairs space. Good in an emergency.
It needs a reliable system of odour expulsion though.
Another idea - an outside 'netty' as my Grandma called it. In the back garden.

Are you absolutely sure you can't have an extra loo or bathroom?

It may well be less expensive or less problematic than you think.

Why not get some quotes? There may well be a way to fit one in that you hadn't thought of.

I wouldn't give up on the idea without investigating all the possibilities.

In the meantime..... a squirt of toilet gel will get rid of any nasty smells ??

We bought an apartment off plan a few years ago and as it had a large cupboard directly behind the bathroom we asked the builders to install a second toilet and washbasin which was great. Fast forward 2 years we put it up for sale and the couple who finally bought it were Japanese. The woman couldn't understand why we had had an extra toilet fitted to the expense of storage. To this day I wonder if she had her way and sacrificed the toilet for shelves and hanging space!

PS I also recommend VIPoo or one of the other ones on the market - they do work.

We have a second loo downstairs, bur in the large house I grew up in in the 60s only had an upstairs loo. At least it was separate from the bathroom.

With us, it would be the other way round. DH, who was a teacher and had to stick to a timetable all his life, is as regular as clockwork. I was only ever a housewife or working in an office and could always go when I needed to, so I would be the one banging on the door!

One thing we looked for when buying this house was an additional downstairs loo. It is in an extension tacked on to the back of the garage, and has a shower too. We often both need the loo at the same time, so both loos are well used, but the shower will really come into its own if one of us ends up needing to sleep downstairs.

Incidentally we also looked for ease of access, not on a slope, on a bus route, walking distance to shops, doctors etc. All boxes ticked.