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Shirleyjmac Tue 16-Apr-19 18:03:03

Hi
I am new to this but came to it looking for some advice/comfort.
My son married my Japanese daughter in law and moved there 12 years ago. We have three grandchildren and my husband and and I are staying with them on holiday at the moment. The trouble is I feel so sad because both of them are so busy. We are left to our own devices during the day as the children are at school/nursery and my son and daughter in law are at work. My son is trying his best to make time but he has a lot of responsibility as a company director. We see the grandchildren after we have collected them from school and see my son at night. We do have a few things planned for the weekend. The real issue is that I feel my daughter in law is avoiding us. She is a teacher at boarding school and works late. Today it was 11.30 pm she came in after going out at 7.30 am. If she is home earlier then she goes to bed. She is pleasant enough but had never made any effort to have time with us. When she had visited us in the past she has gone to bed early every night and the last visit my son came over first and she came a week later stopped in London overnight then only a week with us. Perhaps it is the Japanese way but I feel we are an inconvenience. All I want to do is spend some quality family time together. We also have a language barrier with our two small grandsons as they are only 5 and 3 and are not able to make themselves understood to us with our limited Japanese. I have tried hard to learn the language but cannot retain it. Having them on our own whilst their parents are working is not an option. My grandaughter is 9 and more bi-lingual but cannot take time off school. I miss them all so much especially my son when we are apart. I have been looking forward to this trip but I feel so miserable tonight I just want to go home. Any advice would be welcome please.

glammagran Wed 17-Apr-19 14:11:13

It would be a terrific shame for these children not to be bilingual. My DH’s sister met and married an Italian and moved there in 1968. When he died 3 years ago he could scarcely utter a word of English. Their children, now in their late 40’s only speak Italian, never being spoken to in English. Poor sister never worked, her only role was to provide 3 meals family meals a day and she has quite poor English herself now.

Lily65 Wed 17-Apr-19 16:17:40

So is your son fluent in Japanese?

Daisyboots Wed 17-Apr-19 16:38:49

I may have missed it but have you visited them before as it all seems strange to you. Such a pity that the children are not being brought up bi-lingual as their early years is the best time to learn. My son's wife is Russian and the children have been bi-ligual since they started to speak. It's my son who is the lazy one who doesnt speak Russian. When we visited in November and her lovely mother was over from Russia and can speak some English so if there was something she couldn't say she said it in Russian and my 8 year old grandson translated into English. Perhaps you could get a Japanese to English dictionary and start using simple words for things around the house to talk to the little ones with. Hold up a book or other item and get them to say in Japanese and then you say the English word. They will soon catch on and you will learn some Japanese too. Enjoy the rest of your holiday

Patticake123 Wed 17-Apr-19 17:41:10

I experience similar feelings when visiting my son and each time after around 3 days I am desperate to get home, however, we have to stick it out and after another few days we seem able to settle down. Get out and about and enjoy the little ones whilst you can. The trip will be over all too soon and then you know how much you’ll yearn to hold the little ones again. It is difficult but not impossible. Enjoy the rest of your stay.

Riggie Wed 17-Apr-19 18:51:56

My knowledge comes second hand from close friends who have taught in Japan- there's a huge emphasis on education over there with lots if kids doing extra hours after school so it's possible that your dil has to put the hours in as well, and especially at a boarding school.

agnurse Thu 18-Apr-19 00:49:49

Riggie

I learned about Japan in my Year 7 Social Studies (course encompassing geography, history, sociology, political science, anthropology, and cultural studies). At that time, it was very common for children to attend juku, or additional lessons after school. It was an expectation that children would do well at school and be able to get into a good university. At that time, children were put into school at age 1 and some people were saying that was too late!

Not surprisingly there is a very high depression and suicide rate in Japan. If DIL is working at a residential school it is quite possible she is dealing with non-academic issues for the children as well as academic ones.

janeainsworth Thu 18-Apr-19 01:34:46

Shirley I do empathise as I too have family who live abroad, in the USA.
It’s hard staying with anyone for any length of time, not wanting to be a nuisance in someone else’s house, and perhaps feeling that you’re a stranger to your grandchildren. (That does get better as they get older).
I haven’t really any advice except hang in there! You say your DiL is lovely and has arranged for you to all stay somewhere this weekend.
I hope you enjoy your family time together flowers

glammagran Thu 18-Apr-19 08:35:56

I find the Google Translate app to be very good. You can get audio translate on it too which helps with pronunciation.

Lily65 Thu 18-Apr-19 09:05:32

Your son must be linguistically very talented to hold down a job as a company director, in a language which is so difficult to learn.

Shirleyjmac Thu 18-Apr-19 13:00:02

Thanks everyone for your kind words. I think I misled you as my son and DiL both speak English to the children. However they spend a lot of time with their Japanese grandparents who do not speak English. The children are fairly bi-lingual but obviously prefer their mother tongue as anyone would. I think I was just having a bad day. Perhaps jetlag combined with hormone tablets (post cancer) I have to take was not a good mix. I am enjoying our time very much and DiL was able to eat with us yesterday. Thanks everyone for your kind words

Shirleyjmac Thu 18-Apr-19 13:06:02

Lily65 thank you. My son is indeed a very talented linguist speaking 6 languages fluently. He has worked his way up in a Japanese company so no mean feat. He got a first class hons in Japanese studies at Durham so we are very proud of him. He is also a little on the autistic spectrum - high functioning - which makes life interesting at times?

Lily65 Thu 18-Apr-19 14:12:35

Shirley......Wow !!!

Nonnie Thu 18-Apr-19 16:43:40

So happy for you, we all have our off days. Enjoy