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Polskasue Mon 28-Jan-19 18:35:04

Walking along a pavement today mostly blocked by a parked car. ( Another issue! ) Two ladies around my own age, one with dog were walking towards me. I stopped, waited and let them through first. It was obvious I had waited. Did they thank me or even acknowledge my existence? No. So after they had passed me I said loudly and clearly "You're welcome." A snigger from one of the ladies as a response. I get incensed that the older generation are all too quick to criticise young people - but why did I teach my children, and they teach their children to be polite and pleasant when the older generation can be so ignorant. Please don't let me get started on drivers too lazy to indicate!!!

Scotsmum Thu 31-Jan-19 13:14:25

Just goes to show that a young rudely behaved person will grow to be an old rudely behaved person...

Smurf44 Tue 29-Jan-19 22:00:35

I live in a medium sized road where cars park on both sides so there is barely enough room for two moving cars to pass except there there are driveways. I always wave when an oncoming car stops to let me through. My OH rarely does the same when someone stops for him and mutters that he can’t understand why they have stopped as there is enough room to drive a bus through the narrow gap, which I find embarrassing. He also belongs to the group who mutter Thank You so quietly (if he bothers at all!) it is impossible to hear. ?. I Find that really annoying! angry

Tartlet Tue 29-Jan-19 20:31:21

I don’t worry too much about other people’s lack of manners or courtesy. I just try to remember mine.

My late mother in law (in her 90s) was a demon when out in her wheelchair because she used her stick to poke anyone who dared to get in our way. I used to be absolutely mortified. It was a tricky balancing act trying to show my apologies for her behaviour without offending her.

PhiPhisnana Tue 29-Jan-19 19:33:22

I would have said the same as you - probably a very snarky “you’re welcome”.
However - I wouldn’t let it bother me much more than that. Get over it

Auntieflo Tue 29-Jan-19 18:48:31

One summer day whilst walking along a canal tow path, a group of cyclists came up behind us. None of them had a bell, and luckily my hearing was better than it is now. They expected right of way.
Also, as a voluntter in a charity shop, we can usually supply donated carrier bags, for purchases. But, there are a few who just demand a bag, saying ‘Bag!’
I stand my ground and say sweetly please but very rarely get a ‘thank you’. So rude, and arrogant.

chrissyh Tue 29-Jan-19 18:35:23

I think DH & I are the only ones in the supermarket to say thank you to people who wait for us to go past or sorry when we inadvertently stand with our trolley in the way. I know a lot of people are 'miles away' thinking of what they need, etc. but some look you straight in the eye and just walk past. It is to those people who I sarcastically say 'thank you'.

glammagran Tue 29-Jan-19 16:22:36

We were on a Med cruise which was like a go cart track dodging mobility scooters. One particularly memorable elderly woman headed towards a doorway at top tilt shouting “Coming through - hold the door” and careered through without a word of thanks to the man holding the door open for her.

EllanVannin Tue 29-Jan-19 15:59:57

I've rarely come across bad manners and on the odd occasion when I have, it's been the elderly sad " shoving !")

sodapop Tue 29-Jan-19 15:58:15

Aepgirl Post Office staff had special training in how to be grumpy,rude and p* off the customers. There were some exceptions to this rule of course.

breeze Tue 29-Jan-19 15:42:22

CazB I used to drive around the country as part of my job and soon realised the best way to get out of a turning was to thank the driver 'before' he/she let me out! Worked almost every time smile

There was one funny time though. I was in the City (of London) and coming into one lane from two. Another car was edging forwards. We edged. We edged. I looked across annoyed and he mouthed slowly 'This... is.. a... company... car'. I mouthed back 'So... is.... this'! We burst out laughing and he gallantly let me go first.

Nanny41 Tue 29-Jan-19 15:15:25

Dont get me started, I am sick of being bumped into bmy people on mobile phone not looking where they are going and never apologising. Also when they walk over crossings they never wave or nod a thank you, on the other hand older people always thank when they cross, I dont live in the UK but when we visit, my Husband is always impressed my motorists thanking each other when letting each other come out of a side road or anywhere where one persom has to give way so take a bow everyone, some have manners,not in this country I am afraid.

CazB Tue 29-Jan-19 15:10:56

My mother used to give a regal wave if a driver didn't wave to thank her for letting him through. She would also say "thank you!" very loudly to any rude shop assistant she came across.

breeze Tue 29-Jan-19 15:00:32

Don't get me started!

Cyclists two abreast.

We are dog walkers and try to be considerate to others. If we see people cycling/infirm/wheelchair/buggies/toddlers and so on, we call our dogs, hold their collars or put them on leads so said people can get past us. I have lost count of the people who have stopped for a chat not even acknowledging we are standing there like a pair of twits holding collars for them to go by, not thought to say thankyou, whizzed past nearly knocking us over, or, once, incredibly, had a go at us for even being there.

I always thank people who let me pass, open doors for me, or other acts of politeness/kindness.

And it's not just the young. I once made the mistake of visiting my local supermarket on 'pensioners money off day'. I was crashed into by trolleys with arguing pensioners. Some of them with trolleys full of alcohol. Rudely pushed out of the way so they could get to things. Shelves blocked, such rudeness I was shocked. Then to top it off, I witnessed an actual punch up in the carpark between two elderly people over a parking space.

So it's not always the young people. Some are lovely and polite.

4allweknow Tue 29-Jan-19 14:02:54

I have two bugbears about the lack if manners. 1. Cyclists on pathways who race up behind, give a little tinkle on a bell and the scoot by at the side of you. I have basically stopped walking in any area where cycling is allowed. My DH is hearing impaired and doesn't hear cyclists or tinkling bells and I am fed up pulling and shoving him out of the way whilst having to listen to rude comments about not getting out if the way.
2. People, young and old who dawdle about in twos or more in supermarkets with trolleys left in the way. Can people not understand others want to access shelves etc and progress through the aisles.
Manners maketh the man (or woman)!

gran5up Tue 29-Jan-19 13:43:27

In this area, it's sometimes oldies but my two chief groups of sinners are:
1) Young Mums who each have a massive buggy and must walk 2 abreast, usually chatting to each other, juggling coffee and phone-when I see the buggy's empty as they haven't remembered to put the little one in..
2) JATH-"joined at the hip". May be young lovers, old biddies or just mates but they are not physically able to proceed without someone beside them.
A friend says sweetly, "In your own time dears!"
And don't get me started on cars in traffic queues that wait on pedestrian crossings ...

widgeon3 Tue 29-Jan-19 13:12:23

supermarket last week too.
The man behind me had only 2 items so I asked him if he would like to go in front of me.
'Yes'
and, as i had a broken wrist, would he be able to lift a 2kg bag of potatoes on to the moving band for me.
'No'
the girl on the till told him she did not really feel like serving him first as she had never come across such bad manners before.

Nonnie Tue 29-Jan-19 13:09:31

I can't agree that it is older people, certainly not where we live. Generally people are considerate but the ones I find difficult are those who don't queue in the bus shelter, stand behind and they push in when the bus comes. On the bus most of the young people don't offer their seat to older people but one day two schoolboys were occupying the one for less able people and I asked them if I could sit down and showed them the sign. I don't think anyone had ever made them aware of it. They moved and suggested another passenger took the other seat.

When walking around the shops it is definitely the younger people who just keep walking and expect me to move out the way. I don't any more I hold my ground and make them walk round me in the hope that they will think about it. Of course I would always move out of the way for a pushchair or anyone who looked less able than me.

Bandit Tue 29-Jan-19 12:58:41

Shout bannocks and go on your way

b1zzle Tue 29-Jan-19 12:49:46

Absolutely agree! The other week I was in the supermarket and went to join a queue at one of the checkouts but there was another woman there with a trolley standing a good metre/yard away from the end of the queue. Not wanting to be forced to back into the queue on the next checkout I asked if she was in the queue and if so, would she mind moving up a bit. She took one look at me and said, 'I'm quite happy where I am, thank you.' Grrrr!

Emelle Tue 29-Jan-19 12:44:40

Polskasue - I agree with everything you say! We live in a small market town and almost every time we walk in to town we come across example of bad manners such as people walking side by side so that we have to walk single file off the pavement, groups of four chatting and blocking the whole pavement and I haven't time to list my pet hates in the supermarket. Sadly, it is most often older people usually the ones who would be the first to complain about the same behaviour from the younger ones.
They seem to have a sense of entitlement just like my late mother and my mother in law. I have asked my DS to tell me if I show any signs of behaving like that - and he will!

Aepgirl Tue 29-Jan-19 12:10:15

We used to have a really rude lady at our local post office (now closed down) who never said please or thank you, or even acknowledged customers. One day after being served in her normal rude manner, I said ‘pardon’, her response was ‘I didn’t say anything’ so I replied ‘I’m Sorry, I thought you said Thank you. She then replied ‘No, I didn’t’. I wouldn’t like to tell you what I said!

Bagatelle Tue 29-Jan-19 12:05:46

I put it down to ignorance. Parents have either failed or not tried.

inishowen Tue 29-Jan-19 12:01:21

When my daughter was a teenager she used to get the bus home from school every day. She said the old people would elbow the young ones out of the way to get on the bus first. She would never have pushed in from of them as she had been taught good manners. Just shows, being old doesn't make you polite.

Bijou Tue 29-Jan-19 11:59:08

When I am on my scooter in the town centre there are often families walking slowly three or even four abreast and they get very rude if I ask then politely if I can get pass. Last week in the checkout queue I just touched a woman’s foot with my front wheel. I apologised but got a load of abuse about old people. Everyone these days seems to be so miserable and rarely do you see a smile

Oldwoman70 Tue 29-Jan-19 11:41:01

The other day I was waiting at the check-out in the supermarket, the woman in front of me was on her phone the whole time, not looking at the check-out operator at all, handing over her money whilst still staring into the distance and never once acknowledging the assistant. When it was my turn I mentioned to the assistant that I thought it was very rude - the assistant said it happened all the time, mostly with young people but occasionally with older people too. I suppose you either have manners or you don't - age doesn't come into it.