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petunia Mon 14-Jan-19 13:44:08

Genuine question. I am so sick of the endless posturing and grandstanding of politicians of all colours, over Brexit. My trust, such as I was, in politicians has sunk to an all time low. My own MP has behaved disgracefully over the whole Brexit issue. I don’t feel that I can support that person any longer. I did write and make my views known. The response was dismissive and patronising. But I cannot bring myself to vote for the other side.
So what are my options here? Do I not vote at all? Or is spoiling my vote a better option.

Grandad1943 Tue 15-Jan-19 06:46:41

I will be very surprised if the Conservative party remains as a single identity by the time of the next Scheduled general election. The splits and ideological divisions now run very deep within the party and a *break up" is now very much on the cards many political analysts now believe.

Already it is difficult to see the Tory party and this government as that single identity in much of its core beliefs and thinking.

Anja Tue 15-Jan-19 05:49:19

paddyann I remember when Glasgow was notorious for its razor gangs.

paddyann Tue 15-Jan-19 00:25:50

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Anja most impressive is the fact that there was not ONE death by stabbing in Glasgow in 2017.I believe that London have been having talks with Police Scotland to help with their knife crime problem.If you remember Glasgow was called the murder capital of Europe not so many years ago its a remarkable statistic.
My aunts and cousins are very envious of our SNP ,in fact one cousin is looking for ground up here to build a home ,she was born and bred just outside of Manchester .

Eloethan Tue 15-Jan-19 00:08:46

I will vote Labour.

Anja Mon 14-Jan-19 22:52:24

I was born in Bellshill ?

Anja Mon 14-Jan-19 22:51:55

So am I paddyann. Could I not stand as a SNP candidate here in the West Midlands perhaps?

paddyann Mon 14-Jan-19 22:45:22

SNP for me ,crime at a 40 year low,reoffending down 19% ,no tuition fees,maternity grants restored ,nursing bursaries restored and increased,pay rises for police and nurses,a decent policy on a REAL living wage and much more .Of course I believe in Independence so they are the only party who will get us that too.I'm just sorry my English family and friends dont have aSNP candidates an dso are they .

Anja Mon 14-Jan-19 22:36:33

That’s ok those who don’t want to vote. It’s about time us old fogies let the younger generation have a say. We’ve had our day and we are just bed-blockers and a drain on the NHS. Stand aside, stay at home and moan.

Blencathra Mon 14-Jan-19 22:11:21

I always vote and will continue to do so but I won’t vote for either of the main parties.

dragonfly46 Mon 14-Jan-19 21:55:23

It is very tricky. I feel I must vote - women died to make it possible, but there is not one politician I would vote for at the moment.

SueDonim Mon 14-Jan-19 21:24:19

I had assumed I was alone in considering not voting in any future election - it seems I'm not. I've never not voted, it's always been an intrinsic part of me that I vote, because people fought for that right for so long.

Yet now? I think I'd still go to the polling station/return a postal ballot, but I'd spoil it/leave it blank.

How has it come to this? What a tragedy. sad

Mycatisahacker Mon 14-Jan-19 20:26:43

notanan

Spot on and very very frightening.

Unfortunately the radical element of the trans community sees their rights as above and beyond womens.

And some politicians especially the Lib Dem’s support them.

Women don’t realise the peril we are facing as it’s been done very quietly.

notanan2 Mon 14-Jan-19 19:42:08

Just to emphasise the impact of the above, if everyone can self ID and being a woman is "a feeling" then it renders "sex" no longer a protected characteristic and discrimination against women based on them being biological women no longer exists on paper.

Just let that sink in
All the developments that have over time worked to protect women from being discriminated on based in their sex become moot.

Mycatisahacker Mon 14-Jan-19 19:35:25

jane

The greens manifesto figures don’t bear any scrutiny. They will build everyone an affordable home?

Self ID if liberal party policy so any man can self Id as a woman without any surgery/hormone/medical intervention and then be considered as a woman. Be able to access a female birth certificate and still in possession of a cock admittance to female prisons, refuges, etc. Also please see their non man policy so eradicating the term woman

notanan2 Mon 14-Jan-19 18:21:03

I cant vote green they chose not to represent me when they advised some of their canvassers to refer to people as either men or non men cause "women" can be offensive hmm

Also they did some cack money wasting craziness in Brighton

M0nica Mon 14-Jan-19 18:10:54

I was attracted to the Greens until I read their manifesto, the nitty gritty figures of their economic policy was frightening. They wanted to return to the monetarism that Mrs Thatcher espouse, although, that is not quite how they worded it. years. Look back to very early in the GN archives and you will find the thread.

I have been a member of the Libs/LibDems since 1962, but whether I could bring myself to vote for them given the succession of disastrous leaders they have had since the last election and the current leader, Vince Cable, would be prepared to deal with Labour, which I could never vote for.

janeainsworth Mon 14-Jan-19 17:58:49

Mycat Lib Dem’s can’t possibly expect any sane woman to vote for them over their mysogynistic insanity on self ID
What is the LibDem policy on self-ID? Genuine question.

Greens I mean seriously??? Not one sensible costed affordable policy
At the meeting I went to, the Green candidate was the only one who talked about sustainable policies and how these could produce economic growth to 2050.
They may not have any policies that apeal to you, but they seem to be the only party thinking about the long-term future of this country, rather than what will win them the next election.

Jane10 Mon 14-Jan-19 17:53:03

I wrote to my Lib Dem MP and got a very patronising dismissive response. I won't vote for her again. Or for SNP, Labour, Tories.... So who?!
I will turn up though in recognition of those suffragettes. Maybe we'll have an independent person with principles standing. I hope so.

Mycatisahacker Mon 14-Jan-19 17:43:23

A cooelition of Lib Dem’s and greens would be a lovely cozy meeting of woolly minds and ideas and absolutely nothing would be achieved.

Still couldn’t be actually worse than the present lot.

Mycatisahacker Mon 14-Jan-19 17:40:27

It’s very depressing.

No sensible labour voter would vote for Corbyn who remembers the deadfall 70s. He’s also a nasty anti Semite and never run so much as a Union. Utterly dreadful and pathetic idiot of a man.

Tories vile.

Lib Dem’s can’t possibly expect any sane woman to vote for them over their mysogynistic insanity on self ID.

Greens I mean seriously??? Not one sensible costed affordable policy.

Fucked

Izabella Mon 14-Jan-19 17:31:39

wasted

Izabella Mon 14-Jan-19 17:30:26

Interesting thread and my thoughts entirely. I have no idea what to do. I feel a green vote is a waster vote and nothing to choose between the others. I feel disenfranchised by the fact we have a shower of ? to choose from. I realise others will disagree, but that is how I truly feel at the moment.

Parsley3 Mon 14-Jan-19 16:56:57

I usually vote tactically for the party that I think will do the best job for whatever situation the country is faced with at that time. I have no strong allegiance to any party. Should there be another GE in the near future, I will be voting for one of the smaller parties as I am completely scunnered by the infighting of the Conservatives which has resulted in the present Brexit shambles. I haven’t been able to vote for Labour since the Blair years moved it too far right for my taste and the present Corbyn/McDonnell combo does nothing to appeal to my inate socialism.
So it will be SNP, Greens or the LibDems for me.

janeainsworth Mon 14-Jan-19 16:35:56

Last time I went to the hustings to see what the different candidates were like.
The Labour candidate didn’t even offer an excuse for his absence. The UKIP man was a joke.
It was actually a close call between the incumbent Tory, the very impressive Green candidate, and the LibDem.

I shall see how things go. What I would like to see is a working coalition between the moderates of both main parties, with any Libdems or Greens with brains and integrity being invited in.

I’ll vote whichever way seems most likely to bring this about.

notanan2 Mon 14-Jan-19 16:22:48

I will vote tactically to keep labour out (have previously voted labour but will do all I can to keep this incarnation out)