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petunia Mon 14-Jan-19 13:44:08

Genuine question. I am so sick of the endless posturing and grandstanding of politicians of all colours, over Brexit. My trust, such as I was, in politicians has sunk to an all time low. My own MP has behaved disgracefully over the whole Brexit issue. I don’t feel that I can support that person any longer. I did write and make my views known. The response was dismissive and patronising. But I cannot bring myself to vote for the other side.
So what are my options here? Do I not vote at all? Or is spoiling my vote a better option.

Rosiebee Tue 15-Jan-19 15:19:18

I believe that in all elections, there should be a box that you could tick to show that you do NOT want to vote for any of the above. In this way you are registering your vote and these could also be counted and listed along with the other votes. I couldn't vote for any of the politicians at the moment but I resent the idea that I would have "spoiled" my vote. I'd have chosen my vote and want it registered as such! angry

Wendiwoo Tue 15-Jan-19 15:20:27

Although I would actually call myself a Lib-Dem, as there is insufficient representation in parliament I will vote labour. I am not entirely convinced by JC, however who’s to say his own party would not replace him if they did get into power.
And if labour do not deliver the goods we all get another choice in 5 years time........unlike the brexit vote! I voted to remain and now I hear from industry and see how the NHS and businesses have been and are going to be affected I would do the same again. Some friends voted for Brexit as a “protest” vote against the risible situation between the Cameron-led Tories and UKIP......they are now desperately hoping for a Peoples’s Vote in order to vote for what they believe in. Lesson learned is to vote for the party that offers the nearest to your ideal. Why refuse to vote or spoil your vote as a protest, it achieves nothing. Mr Bloggs, leader of the “Whatever” party isn’t going to worry what you think of him when he’s in power! It would be far better to cast your vote for the “best of a bad bunch”. Someone WILL win, whether you like them or not, so why not try and support those you dislike the least.

Mycatisahacker Tue 15-Jan-19 15:29:09

Absolute I have to vote as it’s ingrabed in me from generations who fought in both wars and the brave women who fought for us to have the vote but my God it’s hard!!

Of course Corbyn Abbott and Mc Donald are utterly incompetent. Abbott seems certifiable in most of her interviews. No dought a good local MP but a minister?? Totally not able to get across any brief.

Corbyn has never run anything he’s an eternal rebel. Most adults progress beyond their teenage rebel years and he hasn’t. He’s never matured. He actually probably would hate to be PM because he knows deep down he would actually have to deliver rather than criticise. Poor old sod.

I wish to God Yvette Cooper had won. I think she would have worked more with May to produce some sort of Brexit the country could rally round.

Anyway I will vote but have no idea who for!!

Mycatisahacker Tue 15-Jan-19 15:30:13

I just don’t understand any feminist voting Lib Dem? Baffling to me with their self ID! They clearly hate women.

Sheilasue Tue 15-Jan-19 15:41:12

It seems that our vote doesn’t mean much, if they have
another referendum.
I voted to remain but those who didn’t won the vote, we have to respect that and deal with the situation.
These slippery Tory’s are set to distroy this country.
This is a Democratic Country we mustnt let that be destroyed.
Sadly there is no party that is considering the people of this country, I have always voted labour but don’t think I will again.

VIOLETTE Tue 15-Jan-19 15:59:30

I do wish everyone would STOP calling it #another referendum# What is being asked for is a PEOPLE'S VOTE now that the damage which is likely to be done with Brexit is better understood (no clarity or plan as seems to be normal with this government and its opposition ......There never WAS a plan, just empty promises God knows why people believed them ....maybe because they felt disenfranchised and forgotten (which, lets face it, many across society were) and along came a promise of a better future ...Utopia even ...where there would be billions for the NHS, jobs for everyone, benefits for those that needed them, just what the people wanted ....and so they were caught ! NOW (some) of the facts are known, it is useful for the government to keep blaming the EU ...but they seem to forget it was Cameron and the UK that started this .....if discussions had been held cross party (not that a cage full of monkeys would be any better than this lot) and solutions sought things may have worked out better. Instead, empty promises were made ..just like Hitler made to the Germans before WWII ...the German people were hungry and had no future but Hitler promised a golden future .......sound familiar ? The UK is ripe for a coup ...watch China ...billions of Chinese money invested in the UK ..why, one wonders ?? softly softly ..........Hoi fat Choi .... I am a Remainer and take the word of Rudyard Kipling into account ..IF you can keep you head when all about are losing theirs .....and blaming it on you ........

and the Desiderata ....Go placidly among the noise and haste .......

I despair !.......................sad

123coco Tue 15-Jan-19 15:59:37

What on Earth could anyone have against Education. It didn’t divide the country!!

marionk Tue 15-Jan-19 16:02:23

I am not politically minded and believe politicians are mostly self seeking liars, but I always make the effort to vote as it gives me the right to moan about the outcome ?. I don’t think anyone who has not bothered to vote has any right to then complain about what is going on in the country.

marionk Tue 15-Jan-19 16:03:49

Sorry but could someone please explain to me the difference between a referendum and a people’s vote?

Nonnie Tue 15-Jan-19 16:14:45

BRedhead59 Tue 15-Jan-19 11:41:33
"Remember for the spoilt ballot paper to be counted you must deface inside the box only. If you scribble right across it -it doesn't count." I didn't know that, I wrote right across the paper when I abstained. Does that mean I have to write I abstain in very small letters?

Even if you are in a safe seat area it is worth voting because you may be able to reduce their margin. It is all you can do to express how you feel and encourage others to do the same.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Tue 15-Jan-19 16:17:54

I feel the same way Petunia and I'm wondering whether to vote Liberal or Green. Sadly I believe that their lack of experience and frankly, common sense is a worry. I cannot abide my local MP as I also think her behaviour over this matter is terrible (I'm wondering if she's the same - initials AS?) though I cannot bring myself to spoil my ballot paper or not bother at all, especially when you recall all the difficulties women had to get the vote.

Nonnie Tue 15-Jan-19 16:18:37

What does "TERF-like mean? It is not in the Acronyms list.

Mycatisahacker Tue 15-Jan-19 16:19:53

People’s vote makes me laugh and the bare faced fucking cheek of those like Alistaire Campbell who ignore over a million people ( including me) who marched against the Iraq war is breathtaking arrogance.

It’s a third referendum of course if you count the first one in the 70s that was just for a free trade agreement not for political allotment by the way no one asked Us about that

My absolute fear is the ignoring of the Brexit vote will lead to a rise of the far right not seen ever in this country and make Farrage look like mother Theresa.

The hard left of momentum have hijacied labour and the far right will sieze those who feel legitimately ignored by the political elite.

Very very scary times

Mycatisahacker Tue 15-Jan-19 16:24:02

TEFF is a disgusting slur meaning trans excluding radical feminist which is basically any women who objects to a man with a fully functioning cock able to obtain a new birth certificate and identify as a woman.

So can access female prisons, refuges carry out gynae procedures on women who don’t realise they are men etc etc.

If you vote Lib Dem you are supporting massive erosions of women’s long fought for rights

newnanny Tue 15-Jan-19 16:24:19

I have voted Conservative all of my life but I can't vote for Mr Pincher as he is going to back May's dodgy deal. I have wrote and told me and I did get back three sides of A4. He did refer to all points i made in my email so he did clearly read it (or someone did anyway) and responded but still not good enough. He agrees the backstop is not good but is going to vote for it anyway. I won't ever vote Labour as they cannot be trusted with the economy and would no doubt go on a spending spree with tax payers money. I won't vote Green as I like driving and flying too much and I might spoil my ballot paper by stating 'no party worth voting for' in large letters. They do apparently keep a record of how may spoilt ballot papers there are in each GE. I just wish there was a Common Sense party who were moderate on all issues.

Mycatisahacker Tue 15-Jan-19 16:25:08

I know it’s baffling they just used to be daft but now they are dangerous

Mycatisahacker Tue 15-Jan-19 16:29:39

Labour were becoming sensible but Blair’s Iraq war led to the demise of that.

Momentum have labour now!no sense and no credibility

Any radical
Ridiculous group has the Lib Dem’s and the Tory party has been siezed by Old Etonians. Again!

The greens are clearly insane.

I despair

eazybee Tue 15-Jan-19 16:48:10

One of the most sensible summaries of the current situation I have heard.Liam Fox said yesterday:

"The public voted to Leave the European Union in the Referendum.
Parliament is dominated by MPs who voted to Remain.
This has precipitated the present crisis.
Parliament contracted out its sovereignty on the issue of whether or not to stay in the EU to the people of this country. MPs had a vote the same as everyone else.
Even if they believe the wrong decision was taken, they still have a duty to honour that vote, and to deliver that contract."

The trouble has been exacerbated by a Prime Minister who is in thrall to the EU, and is attempting to deliver a deal which ties Britain ever more firmly to the EU. She has deceived her own party and the electorate.

Ellie Anne Tue 15-Jan-19 16:57:18

I will probably vote SNP. I don’t support Scottish independence but we have a good mp. I can’t bring myself to vote labour or Tory and think a vote for Lib Dem’s or greens is a wasted vote.

Caro57 Tue 15-Jan-19 17:37:22

I feel voting gives me the right to complain but I will definitely vote tactically!

CrazyGrandma2 Tue 15-Jan-19 17:43:51

Castafiore Thank you for your input as it has given me food for thought. The GDP figures alone were interesting. I will take your advice and do some reading. I would always vote but at the moment I'm not sure who I would vote for.

Chino Tue 15-Jan-19 17:44:15

I am 80 and have always voted since I was eligible but have now decided I will not vote again - have no trust in any of the current Members of Parliament

AdeleJay Tue 15-Jan-19 17:54:38

It’s all so depressing. I have absolutely no idea. I can’t bear any of the present leaders. Yet I feel I must vote after all the Suffragettes went through.

I’m hoping someone will emerge who has leadership qualities & can unite us all after the chaos of Brexit. Perhaps a coalition? Don’t groan...

GabriellaG54 Tue 15-Jan-19 18:10:08

Well then SueDonim, you'll still be wasting your vote. What a silly idea. Go, but spoil your vote?
There are some very vocal GNers who decry those women who choose not to vote after women campaigned vigorously to win that right for us.
Prepare for fallout.

Mycatisahacker Tue 15-Jan-19 18:12:18

chino I know it’s appaling Right now but darkest before the dawn maybe?

This crisis might propel right minded sensible politicians of the yvette copper/ Hillary Benn/ Caroline flint types to come together and some sensible Tories to form a new party? Please