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Baggs Sun 12-Aug-18 06:57:05

I think women should stop curtseying. Men don't curtsey. What's wrong with a handshake?

TerriBull Sun 12-Aug-18 13:56:41

When I went to my senior, convent school, we were expected to curtsey to the nuns who were on the teaching staff, particularly the head nun. I thought it was entirely over the top, the word "grovel" hadn't entered by consciousness at that age, but in retrospect that is what they appeared to demand from their pupils

SueDonim Sun 12-Aug-18 13:22:27

Here's everything you need to know about curtsying. grin Imo, I think you need to be wearing a crinoline for it not to look a bit daft - none of the women in the photos manages it gracefully. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45126243

When we lived in West Africa it was the custom for girls to curtsy to adult men. My Dh found it v embarrassing when our daughter's friends curtsied when they came round for a play date!

inishowen Sun 12-Aug-18 12:48:21

We used to do a very elaborate curtsey to our ballet teacher when i was a child. I haven't felt the need to do it since!

EmilyHarburn Sun 12-Aug-18 12:38:24

I presume that Queen could not cope with everyone's hand shake, so curtseying and bowing remain as hygienic and simple way of greeting.

Galen Sun 12-Aug-18 12:35:29

I thought we all had to curtesy to soop these days?

gillybob Sun 12-Aug-18 12:32:15

Most of my family work or have worked 12 hour shifts Minerva travelling there and back makes for very long days and nights too . I know her Maj is past working age (although the way the pension fiasco is going maybe some if us will have to work until we drop dead) . The young royals wouldn’t know a days “real work” if it slapped them in the face . Why should they?

Minerva Sun 12-Aug-18 12:27:50

I lived in Japan for some time and after an outing with a fellow Englishwoman we found ourselves bowing deeply to each other before we parted. Followed by gales of laughter as we realised we hadn’t needed to.

Gillybob I can’t imagine working a 12 hour shift at anything though I did work a full day in town and then moonlight in a lively coffee bar until 2 in the morning so that I could go on holiday. I couldn’t do it in my late 70s and Her Aboveness is in her 90s so I wouldn’t wish anything on her but peace and quiet.

widgeon3 Sun 12-Aug-18 12:08:54

Every Friday afternoon, amongst other exercises, we had, on Miss Brown's instruction, to do a 'Nice curtsey for the Queen, gels'
Don't know if any of us met the queen but one feature I found interesting was that Miss B explained how we should lock our knees to hold the curtsey for as long as required. This was probably never useful either but I found it interesting and could probably still do a 'Nice curtsey for the queen' although old and fat

janeainsworth Sun 12-Aug-18 12:03:53

We had to curtsey, quite elaborately, to our ballet teacher at the start and end of class. It was called a ‘révérence’
Grandma
When we took DGS to karate class, everyone had to do a deep bow to the sensei as soon as they arrived. A mark of respect and an acknowledgment of authority.

Granny23 Sun 12-Aug-18 12:03:11

Years ago I was staffing a Woen's Aid stall at an event where the chief guest was a man who was the Queen's representative to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland. We were told that should he stop to speak to us we should curtsey as if he WERE the Queen. Being a feminist, a republican and also brought up to bow to no man, I was in a bit of a quandry.

In the event this very tall, charming gentleman approached our stall and bending over, proffered his hand to my 5' self and proceeded to ask in depth, sensible questions about our exhibition.

Grandma70s Sun 12-Aug-18 12:01:06

Minerva, it only looks ridiculous if it’s a deep curtsey like Theresa May’s. She didn’t have to do that. A little bob would have done perfectly well.

I bet she’d spent hours practising, too.

gillybob Sun 12-Aug-18 11:57:50

It must be so hard having to shake hands for a living . I bet the royals Would rather work 12 hour shifts in a factory any day. wink

Minerva Sun 12-Aug-18 11:50:46

It’s a ‘harmless’ tradition that makes women wearing shorter than ankle length dresses look quite ridiculous in my opinion. It used to be tradition for male court officials to be present at the birth of a royal baby, not to mention consummation of the marriage in the first place. Thank heaven we have moved on. Tradition shouldn’t be the reason any woman is obliged to make a spectacle of herself.

I don’t agree however that the queen should have to shake everyone’s hand poor woman. A polite nod would be fine.

goldengirl Sun 12-Aug-18 11:38:36

A curtsey is a courtesy [beginning of a poem perhaps?]

Grandma70s Sun 12-Aug-18 11:33:19

We had to curtsey, quite elaborately, to our ballet teacher at the start and end of class. It was called a ‘révérence’.

If I was introduced to the Queen, I would probably do a little bob - more than that and I’d fall over now. I might possibly do it for Charles or William, but never to minor members of the royal family.

I don't in any way feel inferior, but it’s just a harmless tradition.

MissAdventure Sun 12-Aug-18 11:06:22

I'm not sure I physically could.
A curtsey is like a yoga position!

mabon1 Sun 12-Aug-18 11:05:31

Who cares?

annsixty Sun 12-Aug-18 11:04:43

I would never curtsey or bow to anyone, outdated and so wrong.

rafichagran Sun 12-Aug-18 10:38:34

What a fuss over nothing, men bow, women curtsey. It's tradition, we have freedom of speech, and if people feel so strongly about doing this, they can exercise the right not to attend the event where they have too
I really cannot see this as a problem.

gillybob Sun 12-Aug-18 10:35:52

Your father had it spot in baubles smile

sunseeker Sun 12-Aug-18 10:33:10

I imagine the Queen would welcome the end to the curtsey. Can you imagine someone squeezing your hand whilst they are desperately trying not to fall over. I imagine her hand must get quite sore.

merlotgran Sun 12-Aug-18 10:32:50

A tall woman like TM curtseying in a short skirt looks like a newborn foal struggling to its feet. A quick bob should suffice.

Sweeping curtseys belong in period dramas where the costumes are appropriate for the performance.

baubles Sun 12-Aug-18 10:28:20

I can’t imagine curtsying to anyone although it’s unlikely that I’d ever be in a position where it would be expected. My father used to tell me ‘to bow my head to no man’ (or woman I guess), look the person in the eye and shake his/her hand. That’ll do me.

annodomini Sun 12-Aug-18 10:23:30

It's all about not looking the queen or other royals in the eye. Why? An honest person should be able to look anyone in the eye irrespective of rank. When a private soldier salutes his/her superior officer, he/she does not bow the head.

Anniebach Sun 12-Aug-18 10:18:40

Seems freedom of speech is our right but freedom to curtsy should be banned