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Heroes? I don’t think so.

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Katek Thu 12-Jul-18 12:20:15

Just had a quick trawl through newspaper headlines online to be met with pictures of defeated footballers looking very
glum indeed. Fair enough, but the accompanying headlines describing them as ‘heroes’ annoyed me so much. We’ve just seen the actions of real heroes putting their lives on the line to rescue trapped children in Thailand-how can these well paid (overpaid) young men deserve the same accolade for losing a game of football?

Grandma70s Thu 12-Jul-18 12:31:22

Not to mention the use of words like ‘heartbreak’ to describe losing a football match. Complete misuse of language.

They seem nice enough young men, and I’m sure they’re disappointed, but that’s about it. It's only kicking a ball. Let’s hope they never find out what heartbreak really means.

Panache Thu 12-Jul-18 12:31:35

The dictionary defination of Heroes.

heroes
1.
a person who is admired for their courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
"a war hero"
brave man, champion, man of courage, great man, man of the hour, conquering hero, victor, winner, conqueror, lionheart, warrior, paladin, knight, white hat; chevalier
"his father was a war hero"
star, idol, superstar, megastar, celebrity, celebutante, luminary, lion;
ideal, ideal man, paragon, exemplar, shining example,

Teetime Thu 12-Jul-18 12:33:36

I see your point- I get annoyed at 'hero' dresses in the fashion pages too.

gillybob Thu 12-Jul-18 12:37:28

What a sour thread. Didn't take long did it?

ninathenana Thu 12-Jul-18 12:38:07

Exactly what H said at breakfast time

Jane10 Thu 12-Jul-18 12:44:41

But it's true! It's just a game not a life and death situation.

Katek Thu 12-Jul-18 12:47:20

Not sour gilly-I have absolutely no interest in football, haven’t seen a ball kicked in anger, couldn’t care less who wins the cup and have no intention of doing down any nationality. I just feel that editors could have been a little more circumspect in their choice of words in a week where one man has lost his life and many others have faced extreme danger to save the life of others. It just doesn’t sit well with me.

Oldwoman70 Thu 12-Jul-18 12:48:34

I am not a football fan but have admired the way these young men have worked together as a team to get as far as they have BUT they are not heroes, they are well paid to do something they love. The men who rescued the children from the cave are unpaid volunteers risking their lives to help others - they are real heroes. By all means give the returning footballers a rousing reception but let's keep it in perspective.

Anniebach Thu 12-Jul-18 12:49:40

What is heroic about kicking a ball and losing a match?

Seems there demands for this football team to be given a hero’s welcome home, they lost, disappointing for their supporters yes, but they did lose.

gillybob Thu 12-Jul-18 12:53:43

So the news programs should only cover very serious subjects then Katek nothing upbeat at all. Okay I get it.

Just because a news program covers a happy, good news story it doesn't mean that tragic events around the world are less important. We all deserve a tiny bit of joy in our lives. Crikey knows mine is full of sh*t most days and the football has lifted my spirits.

gillybob Thu 12-Jul-18 12:55:01

What did they lose Annie ?

Oh yes the semi final of the WORLD CUP. Not a bloomin' Sunday league game on the local rec.

Anniebach Thu 12-Jul-18 13:00:16

Yes they lost the semi final gilly, one more match will position them third or fourth , football got lost on its way home

Luckygirl Thu 12-Jul-18 13:00:28

It is quite hard for people with zero interest in football to grasp what all the fuss is about. I am afraid that for me it has all been more than a little OTT.

I'm all for good news - but apparently this was not good news because it seems that they lost the match.

gillybob Thu 12-Jul-18 13:04:20

Yes 3rd or 4th IN THE WORLD ! Annie. How can you say that is losing?

I think this conversation is pointless.

Katek Thu 12-Jul-18 13:05:20

I didn’t say that gilly, I’ve no problems with all aspects of news being covered both good and bad. We need a balance. What I object to is the terminology being used. Yes, it’s the World Cup, but not everybody in the world attaches the same level of importance to a football tournament

Anniebach Thu 12-Jul-18 13:08:09

1st is winning, 3rd or 4th is losing gilly

MissAdventure Thu 12-Jul-18 13:08:21

I think its a vast exaggeration to call them heroes.

Katek Thu 12-Jul-18 13:08:51

It’s still just a game and they still lost the match. Of course they lost, that’s why all the fans are devastated! Winners will be the team that wins the final and comes first.

gillybob Thu 12-Jul-18 13:09:32

But you could say that about any sport, well anything at all, to be fair Katek. I have zero interest in Tennis (among other things) but appreciate that others love it. Can't see a problem. Like it or not, this world cup has lifted the spirits for many in the UK , okay before I get my head bit off, England . I am sad that its almost over but I will still watch the play off and the final.

MissAdventure Thu 12-Jul-18 13:12:00

Do you think tennis players are heroes, gilly?

gillybob Thu 12-Jul-18 13:12:49

Yes they lost a match . They did not lose the world cup.

I know you are dying for me to say it so......

What is not qualifying then Annie ? hmm

Iam64 Thu 12-Jul-18 13:12:50

Go gillybob, keep up the defence. If folks have no / zero interest in football, why bother their heads with reading about it. If its on the front page, or the first news item, just don't read/listen. I'm not interested in cricket, or even in Wimbledon. I find it's easy to switch off my ears and interest when it's on the tv or radio and I don't read about it in the newspapers.

Yes its; the World Cup. Football is a sport enjoyed all over the world. These young men, their good coaches and manager have achieved more than any other English football team in 18 years. That's to be celebrated. The other thing to celebrate is the way they sang the National Anthem, their behaviour on and off the pitch. It's brought huge groups together, with a shared excitement and interest. What's not to like.
Come on England, you're coming home to a positive welcome by almost all the country.

stella1949 Thu 12-Jul-18 13:13:04

These days people use "hero" for all sorts of things. In a cooking show I heard the commentator saying "the hero of this dish is the artichoke". Who'd have thought that a vegetable could be a "hero" ?

MissAdventure Thu 12-Jul-18 13:13:58

grin hero artichoke!