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BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 15:36:36

The Thai boys
As the other thread is entitled Good news and as a man has just died in the rescue I thought it needed updating
It s so very sad to think this man has lost his life whilst trying to save these lads
He was swimming to take them oxygen but didn’t leave himself enough for getting back he was 38 years old
I didn’t realise it’s a 5 hour swim to get to the boys ledge and then a six hour swim ( against the flow) going back
The monsoons are expected on Sunday it’s horrendous

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44734385

Hope the link works

Jaycee5 Sat 07-Jul-18 09:25:43

I was watching a documentary about the British cave divers on YouTube which was fascinating. They have carried out a number of rescues around the world and are known as the A Team. They were called in when someone was buried in an avalanche and they got him out safely, also in Mexico and in France. The Mexico one caused a bit of an international incident as the Mexican government offered help that was not accepted as they wanted to wait for the British team. The tracked the boys by footsteps but if you imagine looking for them in the dark with only torches while you are in water and mud it was quite a feat.
There are teams in the forest as well closing holes that would let the water in but also digging in places that look like possible entry ways. The cave hasn't been mapped so it is difficult to know what they would be digging down to and whether they would be near the boys.
People on social media who start comments with 'why don't they … ' annoy me. As if they aren't thinking of every possibility and facebook is the place to find an answer.

MawBroon Sat 07-Jul-18 09:15:20

confused??

annep Sat 07-Jul-18 09:05:22

I too think it's a very difficult task. I do hope they succeed. The 'what if they don't' does not bear thinking about. Just going to read articles thank you bluebelle .

baubles Sat 07-Jul-18 08:54:40

I’m interested and hoping for the safe return of all concerned but haven’t commented till now as nothing I say or think will make any difference to the outcome.

Mapleleaf Sat 07-Jul-18 08:44:05

Lost not list.

Mapleleaf Sat 07-Jul-18 08:43:24

It's a desperately sad situation, isn't it? My heart goes out to them all - the trapped boys and coach, their families, the rescuers and the family of the poor diver who list his life.
Battling nature is going to be so hard, but I pray for a positive outcome.

MawBroon Sat 07-Jul-18 08:28:44

A link for those who would like to read more

edition.cnn.com/2018/07/06/asia/thai-cave-rescue-elon-musk-intl/index.html

MawBroon Sat 07-Jul-18 08:26:49

I read in today’s DT that Elon Musk is to help.
ELON MUSK, the billionaire entrepreneur, yesterday dispatched engineers from his companies, SpaceX and The Boring Company, to Thailand to help with the rescue of 12 boys and their football coach who have been trapped for two weeks in the Tham Luang caves of northern Chiang Rai province.

loopyloo Sat 07-Jul-18 08:11:13

I am hoping that some very bright experienced people can come up with a solution. It's a shame they can't be put it in oxygenated pods and pulled through. Even drilling a hole towards them would mean you could get more oxygen in.
Surely there are mining experts somewhere who could help?

Auntieflo Sat 07-Jul-18 08:05:24

Nfk dumpling, you have summed up exactly how I feel, and no doubt many others. Just my prayers for them all, the trapped, the rescuers and the families.

BlueBelle Sat 07-Jul-18 07:46:26

I wasn’t meaning people weren’t interested in the situation Baggs I was surprised there weren’t more comments meaning interest in the newsy kind of way, perhaps I worded it clumsily My apologies if I did

BlueBelle Sat 07-Jul-18 07:38:34

They have managed to get more oxygen in according to the bbc news this am but I m like you Nfkdumpling I can’t think about much else at the moment I keep imagine those poor mums waiting so helplessly and the boys must be scared stiff and the poor coach who has made an apology to the parents must be eaten with guilt and regrets he must be going over and over why did I bring them in here ?
I think this weekend will be the critical time for getting them out

NfkDumpling Sat 07-Jul-18 07:22:06

What comment can be given. There are no words.

annsixty Sat 07-Jul-18 07:20:25

That is true. It is the first thing I look for on the news on my tablet each morning.
Most of us here have C and GC and it is unthinkable what their families are going through.

Baggs Sat 07-Jul-18 07:11:52

It is a mistake to assume that a lack of comment on GN shows a lack of interest, on this subject or any other.

maryeliza54 Sat 07-Jul-18 07:10:56

I’ve seen some footage of their parents watching footage of the boys (IYSWIM). It might even have been a live
link to the cave- it was heartbreaking and utterly impossible to begin to imagine how it feels. But isn’t it amazing how all these experts, volunteers came together so quickly from all quarters of the world and are all just united in the one aim. That brings a lump to my throat as to what humanity is capable of.

Willow500 Sat 07-Jul-18 06:46:28

It's just heartbreaking - it was the first thing I thought about when I woke at 3.45 this morning and couldn't get back to sleep thinking about them. Their poor parents sitting up at the top waiting for them sad They are now saying the boys are not ready to dive yet and hundreds of people are in the forest trying to find a suitable site to start drilling a shaft above them. They need oxygen but also to try and get them out that way which would be a far better route than 6 hours through flooded tunnels.

Grandma70s Sat 07-Jul-18 05:45:10

I thought when they were found they would be safe. Now I’m not so sure. It’s so frightening.

BlueBelle Sat 07-Jul-18 05:20:42

Oxygen levels have fallen overnight and the rescuers are really worried they can’t leave it much longer they are really racing against time but haven’t yet found a safe way of getting them back through that tunnel This is horrifying

I m surprised so few people seem interested on GN

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 22:16:39

Latest news...... no rescue tonight They only have till Sunday before the expected monsoon oh this is so terrible

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 19:46:20

Oh i see what you mean about not a deep dive gmelon yes it’s shallow in that sense but anything that comes over your head is deadly

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 19:34:06

I pray it ends well for the children who are so hopeful now of rescue, it would be doubly tragic if it didn’t.It is a wonder that the coach managed to get them all so far and onto higher ground.

gmelon Fri 06-Jul-18 19:27:36

I also read that there are oxygen tanks being emptied into the air to provide extra for all the people now down there.
A line to pump oxygen in to where the team is trapped is being put in place if viable.

gmelon Fri 06-Jul-18 19:25:14

Thank you for the link Bluebelle.
I read that the water is shallow in terms of diving.
If some of the passages in the cave are just a metre high then that is a shallow amount of water to dive in.

That is the wording of the article that I read, perhaps it could have been worded better explaining that this is a shallow dive for them.
The divers are not doing a deep sea dive.

Jalima1108 Fri 06-Jul-18 19:18:15

Ah, I see you mentioned that Bluebelle, sorry