Royal family or a president?

Nelson Mandela died in 2013.

Actually now you ask Anniebach yes I would expect him to fly first class BA .

Maybe a poor example but there are plenty others.

Mandela died nineteen years ago, considering every country sent a representative how do you expect them to get to S.A. Book tickets , book hotel rooms,

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I’m not sure whether the 62p a day cost to tax payers is just spin Jalima ? Other sources claim that their cost is probably
10 x higher than we are lead to believe .

In any case should tax payers pay for Andy’s £14,000 helicopter trip to watch golf? Or Charlie’s £240,000 private jet to Nelson Mandela’s funeral along with many other huge wastes of money ?

I can understand them not wanting a country pad in Norfolk. It obviously suits William and Kate but they have many friends there with children the same age as George and Charlotte. They are also welcome at the Middleton's country pile whenever they choose to visit.

It's different for Harry and Meghan. Why would they want to isolate themselves so far from London? Meghan doesn't have a close family like Kate and Harry's friends are probably Cotswold dwellers He might also want to be nearer to Prince Charles who sees very little of the grandchildren he already has.

Try before you buy seems a good idea to me.

I thought they were buying the country pad but who knows - either way there’s a security bill

Yes Jal gilly and me fully understand that the football clubs don’t pay the full bill - I think you’ll see that our posts make that quite clear.

Your figures are from the RF brainwashing media service and in any event do not include the costs that the police are having to find for the country pad. As for costs for security for some ex ministers, PMs - well what is your point? Are you seriously suggesting that this on a par with paying fir H and Ms security a second home?

I don’t agree with renting a property in Oxfordshire, why not a property in Sandringham

It’s the country estate that I was talking about too . Not KP ( where there is already round the clock security ). Why should extra security for their “country hideaway” be paid for by the tax payers ?

I note now the police are asking for more money to cover massive security bill for their wedding too.

Granny could write a cheque out and not even miss the money, or she could sell a painting or a tiara if she’s struggling .

and many ex-ministers.
the football clubs don't pay the total bill.

The Royal Family costs each taxpayer about 62p per annum. A proportion of that will go to repairing neglected premises such as Buckingham Palace.
I don't mind paying that much; HM is certainly good value for money.

Oh such whataboutery

gilly yes I agree the football clubs do pay for policing on their footprint - so why can’t these two at least pay something towards the costs - they could ask granny

ab I was asking about the costs for the country pad, not KP

All ex PM’s have security

tax-payer paid security

Tony Blair's police protection costs taxpayers millions, report claims
Former prime minister also allgedly mixes official envoy role and private business, says Daily Telegraph investigation

Apparently you don't even to have to be a President, Head of State or even do a useful job to qualify for tax-payer security!

If moving into an apartment in KP no extra security ,

Who owns KP ?

Man Utd alone pay on average £925k for police around their ground .

Football teams pay massive bills for their own security within a certain distance of the grounds.

They are moving into a 21 roomed apartment in KP at present apparently been refurbished by the taxpayer

No argument from me for football etc paying more than they do for policing costs - they can afford it. Such whataboutery however does not justify the security costs for a country pad for two over privileged over entitled people in their 30s. Your comment about the police costs for head of state visits is just silly so not worth replying to. The RW is a done deal now but the costs for the country pad are recurring - why should we pay? Oh wait, there is so much money in the public purse we hardly know what to do with it.

Just googled the properties, they will rent a house on an estate in Oxfordshire and are still living in a house in KP, where is the 22 roomed property and what has the queen given them ? I hope they stay in KP , same security as always been.

why why why why why - just give me one good reason why we should foot the bill?
How much does it cost to police football matches, sporting events, visiting Heads of State etc etc.
I dislike football (should I start a thread for the abolition of football ) but I do understand that security is needed, paid for by the taxpayer.

Much of the security costs of the Royal Wedding went on security for the crowds who went to watch.

What 21 room apartment and what estate in Oxfordshire? I missed these

I for one do not want to pay for extra security for H&M’s country hideaway and nor should I be required to . If they want a rolling estate as well as the 21 roomed apartment (gifted to them by granny) they should pay for their own security staff !

I agree with Gran70's. However the disadvantage of having a thriving royal family with inherited privileges is that their thriving presence supports inherited privilege.

Inherited privilege is contrary to the normal British value of meritocracy. Me, I believe that the anomaly of the monarchy is worth keeping.

There is always an elite in any society and that always will be the case. The Windsors know well that if they want to keep themselves at the top of society they have to justify their privileges. This they do pretty well ever since George VI, and Elizabeth II has been outststandingly professional and a benefit to our nation. The Royal family cannot retain their professional mystique without their marvellous horses and costumery and by putting on a tremendous show every now and then.