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Lyndiloo Mon 02-Apr-18 16:33:59

I'm thinking of starting a Government Petition to reduce the abortion time limit from 24 weeks to 10, and am researching what amount of support I could expect.

I became interested in the subject recently (not knowing much about abortion) when I came across the statistics for abortion in the UK. Since 1967, when the Abortion Act was first introduced, nine-million abortions have been carried out. That's 180,000, per year - equating to 493 per day!

Now, I'm not an anti-abortion fanatic, and I realise that some abortions are necessary for medical or other reasons, but when I delved a little deeper into the subject, I was horrified by the circumstances of late abortions.

Please take a look at my blog (Abortion - 50 Years On) - lynwaites.wixsite.com/writer-poet

I would appreciate your views. Would you consider signing the Petition?

Many thanks for your help.

absent Tue 03-Apr-18 08:14:41

LynneB59 Few babies born at 22 weeks survive and those who do usually have serious health issues. Even those born at 25, 26 weeks struggle to survive with the best neonatal care in the world.

We are mostly grannies on this site and so probably most of us really don't like the idea of abortion. To be honest, who does like abortion? However, we are wise enough to recognise that sometimes, at least, is the best option for a variety of reasons.

The Netherlands has very open abortion laws and one of the lowest rates of abortion, if not actually the lowest, in the Western world. Maybe that has something to do with their sex education that includes useful information about contraception. And before anyone suggests that that promotes teenage sexual activity and promiscuity, their teenagers tend to wait before entering into a sexual relationship.

Menopaws Tue 03-Apr-18 08:01:11

Nope

MissAdventure Mon 02-Apr-18 23:52:04

I think its important to remember that late abortions are the absolute exceptions, not the rule.

maryeliza54 Mon 02-Apr-18 23:30:03

Spot on mcem. OP have you posted on MN yet? Go on - have the courage of your misogynistic convictions

LynneB59 Mon 02-Apr-18 23:07:12

I think the abortion limit is wrong at the moment, particularly when babies born at 22 weeks gestation can now be saved. However, your suggestion of making the limit 10 weeks is really implausible - some birth defects are not discovered until later in a pregnancy. You stand no chance at all of getting a change in the law. I wouldn't sign your petition. You perhaps have either not had children, or have certainly never been in the terrible situation of having to even consider a termination.

Luckygirl Mon 02-Apr-18 22:39:04

It is important that rules on abortion are discussed in a considered way. To suggest a simple 10 week cut off point without looking at the realities and what the outcomes of this might be is frankly silly; and I speak as someone who has serious reservations about the number of abortions that are performed. But a bit of subtlety is needed. The realities are that making the decision to end a pregnancy is, in most cases, hugely difficult and emotional.

I was involved in research on behalf of the government into the Termination of Pregnancy Act a few years after its implementation and met many women who had faced this hard difficult decision. None of it as as simple as it might appear on the surface.

So no, I will not sign this petition.

OldMeg Mon 02-Apr-18 22:29:25

No. No way would I support this.

Deedaa Mon 02-Apr-18 22:24:42

I think abortion is an awful thing, but we had a family friend who's girlfriend had an illegal abortion many years ago. They both had mothers who wouldn't countenance them getting married and she thought abortion was her only option. She was dumped on his door step, where she bled out. I don't think he even knew she was pregnant. He never married and his life was never the same. It's not a situation we want to go back to but with a ten week limit we might.

Gerispringer Mon 02-Apr-18 22:11:07

No thanks it would be turning the clock back imo.

Lyndylou Mon 02-Apr-18 22:06:12

As someone with a similar user name to you, I will just add my twopence worth. There is no way I would support reducing the time limit on abortion. The law is fine as it is.

The only change I would agree with is allowing women to take the second pill in their own homes instead of insisting they take it in the clinic and then travel home, often triggering the miscarriage on the route home.

paddyann Mon 02-Apr-18 21:57:34

its a no from me too,my babies were much wanted and loved and I cant think of any circumstances whare I would have had an abortion....but others are not as lucky.I couldn't force any woman to carry a child of rape,or where the infant would die within minutes of birth or be so disabled it would need 24/7 care and have no quality of life ..or even very young girls who didn't realise they were pregnant until after that 10 or 12 week deadline.I dont think and indeed I hope you wont get signatures for your petition.Lifes hard enough for some women without others taking control of what happens to their own bodies

nanaK54 Mon 02-Apr-18 21:53:18

A firm no from me too

Saxifrage Mon 02-Apr-18 21:50:15

I agree mcem.

Thank goodness we live in a country where government, for the last 50 years, has shown intelligence and compassion for women in this situation.

Let's hope that northern (and Southern) Ireland will soon follow suit.

mcem Mon 02-Apr-18 21:23:20

I've now read some of the OP's blogs and my conclusion is that they are simplistic, dogmatic, narrow-minded, poorly written and lacking in credibility.
Some blogs display nothing more than high-handed self indulgence.

Claudiaclaws Mon 02-Apr-18 21:06:29

And a no from me.

Grannybags Mon 02-Apr-18 20:56:49

It's a no from me too.

Iam64 Mon 02-Apr-18 19:40:28

No from me as well.

MissAdventure Mon 02-Apr-18 19:25:03

I've just read the blog, and it does very much come across as anti abortion, whatever the gestation.

BlueBelle Mon 02-Apr-18 19:17:48

A no from me too and why do you want us to read your blog is that because you have books to advertise

NanaandGrampy Mon 02-Apr-18 19:02:37

No I would not sign your petition

Scribbles Mon 02-Apr-18 18:39:53

No. I would not sign your petition.

trisher Mon 02-Apr-18 18:35:27

No No No. 24 weeks is fine. 10 weeks would mean abortions because of abnormalities probably wouldn't happen. Would you force a woman to give birth to and care for a disabled child? Would you force woman to give birth to a child she doesn't want and can't care for simply because she didn't realise she was pregnant until after 10weeks?
You claim not to be an anti-abortion fanatic, but you seem pretty fanatical to me.

mcem Mon 02-Apr-18 18:06:37

I was surprised and delighted to discover at 37 that I was 14 weeks pregnant. No question of abortion but it does show me that 10 weeks is far too early a cutoff point.
There's a heck of a difference between 10 and 24 weeks.
I won't be signing.
Don't quite get the significance of Nonnie's post.

Eloethan Mon 02-Apr-18 18:05:40

Only a very small number of abortions are carried out over 12 weeks' gestation.

I would be very much against lowering the limit to 10 weeks. Whether it is because the child is likely to be profoundly disabled or very sick, or whether it is because the woman/girl feels, for whatever reason, she cannot continue with the pregnancy, I think it should be a woman's choice.

maryeliza54 Mon 02-Apr-18 18:01:18

None from me -can you tell me why you hate women so much?