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Emm14 Wed 28-Feb-18 09:03:40

Hello lovely ladies. I am hoping for some warm nuggets of wisdom from you please. I have a difficult relationship with my DIL - she is always cool towards me and often rude but during the year she has been married to my son, I’ve kept quiet, not wanting to rock the boat. I now have a beautiful grandson and my DIL isn’t making any efforts to have me part of his life. That isn’t my main worry at this stage; my problem is I am going to be staying at my sons house this weekend - at my son’s request - to be there to support them through the recent death and funeral of my DIL mother. I am dreading it as I will have to put up with the passive aggressive behaviour again and I just do not know what to do? Should I put my foot down and tell her I will not be treated so disrespectfully or turn another blind eye to it, in view of the sad situation with her mother? Thank you

schnackie Wed 28-Feb-18 11:29:29

I agree with all other posters- be as kind as you possibly can and bite your tongue if she is rude. Don't forget, besides her grieving, if she gets upset with you, your son will probably bear the brunt of her anger. He does not need this at this time. As another poster said, look at the long game - she will need a long time to grieve her mum, but in the end you are the only grandmother left and motherly influence in her life. Good luck.

gummybears Wed 28-Feb-18 11:33:16

Please don't confront her the weekend she buries her mother. Even if you feel you are in the right to do so, that is the sort of hurt that will never mend and I have read many, many similar stories where incidents such as that caused the family to cut off the in laws completely.

She is grieving right now and whilst perhaps you will never have more than a polite relationship, your kindness and support at this terribly difficult time will be remembered and appreciated.

This is absolutely the worst possible time to confront your family about any perceived relationship difficulties.

Hattiehelga Wed 28-Feb-18 11:34:29

Say nothing. It took a couple of years for my DIL to realise I amnot the enemy. It was VERY hard for me to hold my tongue as she is the master of the put down. My daughter was livid at the treatment and remarks made and was intent on tackling DIL. I was adamant that she did not because fall out with her and it would be fall out with my Son and I wouldn't give her the satisfaction. She gradually thawed and for the last right years we are good pals. It's hard but could be worth it.

Hattiehelga Wed 28-Feb-18 11:36:05

....eight years.

Coconut Wed 28-Feb-18 11:37:34

It’s hard to plan conversations in advance and especially now at this sensitive time. I usually find it’s best to deal with angst as/when as by not challenging rudeness, you enable it to continue. Next time she is rude I would just say that I hope I have not done something to offend you, and add that you would like to be friends, and see what response you get. I would also hope that if your son hears any unwarranted rudeness that he would intervene. If all else fails, are you close to your son to be able to ask him if there is a problem ? What is important is that as the grandchild gets older, they do not copy any rudeness toward you.

notnecessarilywiser Wed 28-Feb-18 11:38:27

I'm fortunate enough to have two DILs who treat me with love, kindness and respect so I have no direct experience of your problem. If you've ever worked with other people, remind yourself of how you relate to colleagues whose attitudes don't match your own - the situation demands polite co-operation but not that you're all bosom buddies. This would be my approach in your shoes, and if ever a woman deserved a break it's when her mother has just died so for heaven's sake don't confront her for a good while yet (if ever).

FlorenceFlower Wed 28-Feb-18 11:50:10

I can’t add anything to other comments here but just to say that you must be kind and considerate for the foreseeable future and probably for ever.

As a mother and stepmother, I know that extended family dynamics can be very strange at times, but often the problem isn’t to do with you but how the other person perceives the world.

It can be extremely hurtful to be or to feel disliked or ignored, whether obviously or subtly, and we have had a bit of that in our extended family, but I have gradually discovered that that is how some people act to loads of people, and that they have sudden and bitter enmities with other friends and relations as well.

Do hope that the weekend and the funeral go as well as possible. ?

luzdoh Wed 28-Feb-18 11:56:48

Emm14 It seems silly to add to all the "I agree with MissAdventure" answers, but I do! It's not a good time to worry about anything to do with her behaviour now she is grieving. try and be patient and as loving as she'll let you be. Be prepared for anything - grief makes us do/say things we would not normally do/say and don't take any of it to heart. I wonder if she lacks confidence? Is it poss to give her a compliment on her mothering or household/cooking skills? You never know your DS may have said, unknowingly, things like "my mum is an amazing cook" or "my mum was always cleaning and tidying, our house was always spotless." I don't know - it's just a thought.
Fwiw - you are far from alone, several of my friends and one especially have a terrible time with their DILs, one of the main ones being lack of gratitude. One DIL has never thanked her MIL who buys loads of clothes and essentials for her GSs and the DIL actually sends her MIL a list of what she wants for them for Birthday/Christmas.
Just hang on in there. It may improve with time. Sorry I can't be more encouraging but remember you have us lot who do understand! Lots of love, L

Albangirl14 Wed 28-Feb-18 12:09:15

Totally agree with NotSpaghetti. Just help quietly wherever you can but try not to make a big thing of it and withdraw to your room and give her some privacy with her husband if that is what is needed at times.

icanhandthemback Wed 28-Feb-18 12:11:04

I haven't had time to read all the posts but I hope my experience will help. My DIL and I were very close, she even wanted me at the birth of my DGS. Unfortunately, when the baby was 3 months old, her mother died suddenly. Suddenly I found myself as persona non grata. She resented my DS because he had a mother and did her best to distance herself. As she mainly had my DGS, it meant I didn't get to see him too a lot of the time as my DS was working long hours. I was supposed to be looking after DGS when DIL went back to work but she made no attempt to get us used to each other no matter what my son said. Eventually she went back to work, I looked after the DGS and she criticised us unmercifully. I bit my tongue most of the time but did occasionally tell my son how I felt mildly unappreciated. Then one day, the childminder who shared the care asked them to remove my DGS because he was too lively. We had had our concerns about him too but I worked hard to reassure her and gave her suggestions about how we could turn things around.

That was a year ago. Yesterday, it was her birthday. She suddenly gave me an enormous hug and thanked me saying how much she appreciated me and didn't know what she would do without me. I was a tad surprised but this morning realised it was 2 years ago today that her mother died. All the angst and tongue biting was completely worth it for that one accolade.

My advice would be to bide your time and just be there for her. If the relationship is meant to be a good one, you will get there and this tragedy for her may mean that it changes her attitude to you for the better.

sarahellenwhitney Wed 28-Feb-18 12:22:32

Emm14.flowers
A loss of ones mother after a close relationship can be devastating.Give DIl time to grieve and make it clear to DS that you will always be there for his wife. There is nothing more you can do but leave it to DIl.

trisher Wed 28-Feb-18 12:25:01

I agree with all the comments about waiting. I also wonder about how much stress your DIL has been under. I gather she married a year ago, now has a child and her mother has just died. Any one of those can be difficult to handle, all three must be almost impossible. She may just need some time to recover. Give her the benefit of the doubt and be kind.

Matron01 Wed 28-Feb-18 12:28:14

I would go there with an open heart and support them both with every ounce of kindness and compassion you possess. See this as an opportunity to bond with your DIL and nothing to do with her previous behaviour. I think it possible that what you choose to do could make or break the relationship.

Feelingmyage55 Wed 28-Feb-18 12:32:11

My first reaction to your post was amazement that you would even consider such a move at what must be the saddest and most difficult time of this young lady's life. Perhaps also the culmination of watching her poor mum fade away. Only one thing to do - quiet, gentle kindness. Please do NOT ask her how she feels. Think what sort of answers you might get! Arrive with home cooked meal ready to pop in the oven - what she likes, not your son's favourite - this weekend is about her. And for longer than the weekend. Write a kind note saying - anything I can do to help just say, text, email. Sometimes it is difficult to ask out loud. Remember too that you cannot jump into her mum's shoes. quiet background help and kindness. Absolutely nothing about your own needs or wants. Having lost my own mother I feel in a position to advise. Always remember that you cannot turn the clock back. I wish you strength and comfort for the weekend and beyond. Perhaps update us.

minxie Wed 28-Feb-18 12:34:16

Give it time ( she is grieving) and if it doesn’t get any better once a decent amount of time has lapsed. Put your foot down or his will continue for ever. Easy to say I know but putting up with rude behaviour from a family member is unacceptable (does your son notice)

Matron01 Wed 28-Feb-18 12:44:39

I’m shocked that you would even think of confronting her at a time like this. Maybe her attitude towards you is aresponse to the way you treat her? Your question smacks of self centredness. Treat her as you want yourself to be treated were you to be bereaved.

LuckyFour Wed 28-Feb-18 12:57:26

Absolutely do not say anything to your DIL, do not confront her no matter what she says or does. Please don't risk your future relationship with your DS and DGC. Continue to be as supportive, gentle and kind as you possibly can and she will probably come round. Don't under any circumstance criticise her handling of the baby or give advice unless she specifically asks you. Good luck.

Jane43 Wed 28-Feb-18 13:16:33

Your poor DIL is grieving her mother and leading up to her death may have been coping with knowing she was terminally ill. These factors may well have accounted for her behaviour towards you. She may well feel resentment that she has lost her mother at such an important time in her life, being newly married and a new mother. I can speak from experience as I lost my dear father to cancer a year after I got married and eight months before my first son was born. I am ashamed to say that I resented the fact that my husband still had his father for quite some time so she may resent the fact that your son still has you. Grief for a parent and giving birth are not a good combination and her mental health may be impaired, I know mine was.

I think you should try to understand your DIL’s behaviour rather than criticise it. Your son will certainly take his wife’s side in any conflict between the two of you and you may lose a great deal.

I wish you all the best at this difficult time.

mamamkuu Wed 28-Feb-18 13:52:37

This problem is so close to my situation. My DIL has always been very cold to us as a family from day one. I welcomed her, tried to be friends with her but nothing worked. We paid the deposit for their first property, they sold that and have bought a house. We were not told and have not been given the address. She has severed all communication, no visits, calls etc, returns any gifts I send her, but my son brings the g/ch occasionally.
I spoke to my son once and he said to leave it. And I have.
It is ten years this year, but after reading some of the posts here, I am hopeful, things may change.

GoldenAge Wed 28-Feb-18 14:32:20

Emm14 - this weekend is your chance to build a relationship with your DIL. Firstly, regardless of the fact that your son has invited you to offer support, he would not have done that without DIL's agreement, so you need to bear in mind that she wants you there and clearly because she sees some value in that. Secondly, whilst you don't say whether the DIL's mum has been ill for a while, it may have been that the death was expected and your DIL may have suffered with lots of emotional turmoil over the past year that has worked its way through to her interaction with you. So this is the opportunity for you to show your DIL your worth and I would suggest that you do this by openly acknowledging her grief and offering what you can. Practical advice - look around the house for photos of her mum, if you see any, make positive comments 'what a lovely photo of your mum' and if there are no obvious reminders suggest some 'have you thought about having that nice photo of your mum on the sideboard, etc., etc., - you could ask her permission to go and take flowers to the grave if there is one, or suggest that you buy a small plant or tree to put in their garden as a remembrance and something that a story could be told about to your grandchild to keep the memory alive. If you give your DIL the impression that you know how difficult it is for her to lose her mum, and that you think it's important for her memory to be kept alive through continuing bonds - with photos, graveside, plants, bench, etc., your DIL will find it hard to be rude to you. Let her grief work its way through and I'm sure she will realise that she still has a MIL in you and want to make a good relationship out of that.

blue60 Wed 28-Feb-18 15:05:56

Set aside your own feelings for now. It's very likely if you do broach the subject, it may just trigger words said through grief, stress or anger. Words which cannot be unsaid.

See her as a woman in need of help and comfort; the last thing she wants is confrontation at the worst possible time. She needs peace, understanding and sympathy. Make the most dificult time easier for her, and try to make her feel at ease.

This may be a new beginning for you all, a new chance to start again. Don't lose it.

BlueBelle Wed 28-Feb-18 15:14:01

Can’t imagine why you have even contemplated saying anything at this sad time, poor lass.
If you want to keep your son and grandchild in your contact make a friend of her, si many people seem to dislike their daughter in laws, do they expect too much or are their sons all really choosing awful women

colette13 Wed 28-Feb-18 15:25:29

Squiffy -- I thought that -- has DIL's Mother been ill for some time? May be this, alongside new baby -- either way not the right time/place for confrontation -- give her a big hug and some kindness, make bridges, not battles.

Madgran77 Wed 28-Feb-18 15:34:52

Bluebelle My son hasn't chosen an "awful woman"!

Madgran77 Wed 28-Feb-18 15:41:18

Sorry posted before finished ....the fact that she will not engage in relationship building (I believe because of of reasons not particularly related to me, my supportiveness, my positiveness, etc etc) does not make her awful. It does make me sad! (and No I am not perfect before anyone points that out to me, but I am also not an horrendous MIL as demonstrated by my relationship with my other DIL.) I suppose what I am saying is that these things are so very far from simple "awful MIL/awful DIL" or the so called traditional MIL/DIL problems. The reasons for difficulties are often complex and are not solved despite best efforts from one or other party, unless the other party is able/willing to engage