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Oldwoman70 Tue 27-Feb-18 12:46:54

Just had a phone call from someone calling himself Jack. His company are carrying out a "Heat Loss Assessment" in my area and there are grants available to upgrade. He made it sound like it was an official government initiative. He then went on to ask my age, whether I was the owner and if I lived alone. The assessment would mean his company coming to my house and testing the double glazing. I told him I have never heard of the Heat Loss Assessment, refused to answer his questions and hung up. Anyone else received a phone call like this? Is it genuine? Am I becoming too untrusting as I get older?

Oopsadaisy12 Tue 27-Feb-18 12:48:48

Stay untrusting oldwoman, and you’ll stay safe.
I only deal with letters that come through the post, at least I can verify them.

Melanie61 Tue 27-Feb-18 12:50:45

My husband works for a window company.
This is totally made up . There is no government scheme at all.
I'm not saying he is trying a scam but it is a way of giving you a quote for new windows.

Oopsadaisy12 Tue 27-Feb-18 12:50:59

Having said that, there are Heat Asessment Companies who will come out and give you a free quote if you contact them.
The difference is that they don’t cold call you.

jusnoneed Tue 27-Feb-18 12:51:29

I have had calls from them before, sure they are just trying to sell windows.
Told them I couldn't afford whatever they were selling and not interested in their so called survey.

Oldwoman70 Tue 27-Feb-18 12:52:11

Thanks Melanie I thought that might be the case.

Iam64 Tue 27-Feb-18 13:14:00

Never engage with cold callers, or folks who knock on the door trying to sell you windows, double glazing or cavity wall insulation.
Use a local builder, someone recommended by others or someone with a well established business.

Luckygirl Tue 27-Feb-18 13:23:12

"I will just talk to my husband and son about this" - very sexist I know, but it will put them right off.

"Could you please give me the phone number and web address of your company?"

"Could you please tell me the web address of the government department making these grants?"

.....etc. etc. - or just put down the phone.

Nonnie Tue 27-Feb-18 13:37:58

When I get cold calls I simply tell them I only deal with ethical companies. That often makes them put the phone down but occasionally they question it and I explain that no ethical company would call someone who is signed up to the TPS.

M0nica Tue 27-Feb-18 15:50:57

My (truthful) response to the 'grants for retired' for insulation etc is 'I live in a Listed Building'. It works for all kinds of building related cold calling. Feel free to use it, whether it is truthful or notgrin

Madgran77 Tue 27-Feb-18 19:09:54

Look up on line for any titles etc given - it will always give a clue about made up or not, in my experience!

Menopaws Tue 27-Feb-18 19:30:00

No no no

Jalima1108 Tue 27-Feb-18 19:52:03

There was a Heat Loss Assessment questionnaire to be used by non-domestic users
www.ofgem.gov.uk/publications-and-updates/heat-loss-assessment-guidance

but this definitely sounds like a scam of some kind - someone has latched on to the name to try to bamboozle you.

Jalima1108 Tue 27-Feb-18 19:52:51

Another response is 'I have no idea, I will ask the landlord/landlady'.

Caledonai14 Wed 28-Feb-18 00:20:38

I live in Scotland and when I get calls about "government" schemes, I ask which government? If they don't know whether it's a Westminster scheme or a Holyrood scheme, that's usually a fair clue that it doesn't exist.

Craftycat Wed 28-Feb-18 10:18:04

If it is not someone I know on the phone I just hang up immediately. Life is too short & I am too busy to waste time on these time wasting cold callers.
Friends use my mobile anyway.

EmilyHarburn Wed 28-Feb-18 10:20:22

Its made up. We get lots of them trying this type of approach. Put the phone down or leave it off the hook so they waste their time. Or block the number if you can.

Pearlsaminger Wed 28-Feb-18 10:26:06

I say yes yes yes... then right at the end ask them ‘shall I get in touch with my local council? I rent from them so they’ll be the ones paying the bill...’

Usually results in the phone being put down or an exasperated sigh from the other end...

Well, my phone doesn’t ring often... and it’s good to talk so they say wink

Peardrop50 Wed 28-Feb-18 10:26:07

If in doubt block it out

MissAdventure Wed 28-Feb-18 10:26:59

I suppose your answer should be "I'm alright Jack!".

ExaltedWombat Wed 28-Feb-18 10:30:35

A couple of years ago I had free loft insulation installed under a 'government scheme'. It was pretty basic, but it WAS free, and they didn't try to sell me anything extra. They told me their biggest problem was getting people to accept that it wasn't a scam!

But yours does sound suspicious.

Overthehills Wed 28-Feb-18 10:32:29

That used to be my (truthful) response MOnica but since we downsized to a smaller house I haven’t used it - maybe I should just fib! wink

Doversole Wed 28-Feb-18 10:37:14

You are absolutely right to be suspicious. It's a total scam - either trying to sell you something you don't need or, worse, trying to gain access to your house to case the joint for a subsequent burglary. Put the phone down, block the number etc...

Nonnie Wed 28-Feb-18 10:46:39

Can't resist telling you about a friend of ours who had a call from a double glazing company. He put on his very strong Norfolk accent and pretended to be very interested in the conservatory they were trying to sell him and, as he is a surveyor he had lots of question he could ask. He kept them on the phone for ages and even agreed to them coming to do a survey. Just as the call was ending he asked them if he had to get permission from the flat downstairs! No, he doesn't live in a flat. grin

MissAdventure Wed 28-Feb-18 10:53:40

I have a friendly Jehovah witness man who has been coming to mine once a fortnight for about 30 years.
He had a very persistent person phone and tell him he had 'won' a free gift of two memory foam pillows, which had to be delivered in person.
(The person was hoping to demonstrate an adjustable bed)
My friend said he would happily allow this persons free gift, as long as he was prepared to listen to how there was an even more amazing free gift.
The gift of eternal life!
Salesman didn't take him up on the offer.