Animal cruelty

Keeping kosher is a choice with specific foods only available from specific outlets. If the reports that almost all livestock for human consumption in this country are now slaughtered to conform with Halal sensibilities this meat enters the food chain surreptitiously with no choice for those who don't agree with the practice.

Barbaric is a mild way of putting it.

Can anyone ever explain to me just how killing an animal as painfully as possible can make it "acceptable" and "holy" enough for human consumption?

"We are disgusting". That is an opinion, however, I don't feel I am "disgusting", Nor do I know anyone else I would term as "disgusting." Perhaps a tad strong?

Could not agree more, which is why I stopped eating meat years ago. Several posters have mentioned farmers who take note of how their animals are slaughtered, but I feel they must take a lot of the blame. Otherwise it would not take undercover reports to expose the barbarity of what is going on. They must know, equally they agree to live exports, currently the subject of a campaign. Halal slaughter is unnecessarily cruel and should be banned, but as usual money takes precedence. I think the current growing awareness and increase in popularity in veganism may affect sales so possibly increase welfare. I think working in slaughterhouses must damage the soul, this cruelty is not new.

wally ever heard of KOSHER ,very similar treatment to halal ...been happening in THIS country for centuries and NO ONE has uttered a complaint about it as far as I know .Now WHY is that? If we ban halal we must also ban kosher.I have been to a slaughterhouse and witnessed the procedure and no its not pleasant but while I was there it it was done swiftly and efficiently .While people still want to eat meat sadly its necessary to kill animals

This is why I stopped eating meat!

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Animal cruelty in general seems to be getting worse, and dont get me started on the cruelty of asian countries, and the Chinese seem to be the worst ,skinning animals alive and throwing them alive into boiling water,
I try not to buy anything chinese, but sadly its very difficult, i always look at labels, and there are so many things made in China, and those kind of countries
As for abbatoirs, the sooner the better they get CCTV in
Also the poor animals being shipped abroad in crowded trucks, with no water or food,its disgusting,
So many things i wish could be stopped

I couldn't agree more, after all, animals can't complain, can they?

I hate the idea of animals being slaughtered, the least we can do is to make it as humane as possible...........if people want to eat halal meat they must go and live where people have different rules.

shortly it will be law for all abbatoirs to have cctv in all areas at all times. Any abbatoir I have used has been small, local and very caring. Its the big boys that have a problem. the CCTV should sort this hideous behaviour.

Completely agree, Rosina and Whitewave. This is an issue where, despite my best efforts, I start spitting fire about political correctness gone mad. The other is girls being groomed for paedophile gangs.

The animals we eat are mammals just like us with a similar hormonal and emotional make up. That they suffer like us is proven. I feel some satisfaction in a conversation I once had with a sensitive and compassionate farmer who explained that the terror badly slaughtered animals feel produces toxins in the meat which are passed on to those who eat them. He, like Phoenix, carefully and humanely slaughtered at home the few animals they kept for their own consumption.

It is many years since I had my small flock of sheep, but I was always very particular with regard to the lambs welfare and how they were killed.

We used a local abattoir, and would pre book a slot to ensure the lambs came out of the trailer and straight into the killing area, rather than being kept in holding pens awaiting their fate.

I couldn’t agree more. It is barbaric and evil.

I truly believe that we have so much to learn about animals and their emotional e istence and their level of understanding of their world.

Pain is the only thing we do understand and yet we are willing to stand by and inflict this on a species that shares this planet. A planet that we are gradually destroying both for ourselves and those other species. We are disgusting.