I know it'll never happen but...

I was trying on a selection of jeans in M&S today. After handing them all back I told the assistant it was a pity that the designers never realise that a size 16 or 18 woman is never going to have skinny match stick legs. She told me that the other problem they have is that size 6 clothes are all designed for 6 footers rather than the petite women who are usually size 6.

Anniebach I have more than enough bum and bust to cover the both of us. And it's a real pain trying to find clothes to fit properly. By general rule of thumb, if something fits my bust, it will hang off the shoulders and gape at the back. If it fits by huge bum and thighs, it will gape at the waist. Dresses are a nightmare.

You are right lizzypop it would be good to see more mature and curvy women in magazines modelling clothes.
We also need more actual shops selling clothing that suits us.

Have some of mine? ?

I want a bum and a bust

I don’t understand why stick thin models are used anyway, you can’t say they show clothes off to their best advantage! I’ve been looking at vintage photos from the 40s and 50s when the models were still thin but had curves and to my mind some curves are more attractive than the current ideal.

I’d like a dd chest too - I’m a b cup, sadly

The worst thing is that the models are under such pressure to be thin they eat cotton wool to stave off hunger pangs! It's actually called the cotton ball diet!

Ossie Clark was a brilliant designer, but his garments were still modelled by skinny models. It was ever thus in the industry, today's designers are no different, unfortunately for us.

lizzypopbottle DH always maintains that it is because today's designers are all fairly useless and could not tailor a garment properly - they use these stick thin models because they are unable to design garments that fit normal women properly.

"Do they know what a dart is?" he asked.
This from an engineer btw, with no connection to the fashion industry!

In my sewing days this was my favourite blog - she's making her own pattern range now, and recognises the need for larger (curvy) sizes:
blog.bygertie.com/2017/12/11/charm-patterns-plus-size-survey/

A designer wants their garment to be displayed to its best advantage, and unfortunately that will be on a stick thin model.

I find more sensible ideas are featured in the cheaper weekly magazines. I agree that suggestions for older women are often rather frumpy.

Well M0nica, it was just an idle thought but I'm sure many of us would appreciate some sensible ideas for flattering clothes and be able to find them in order to try them on! Clothes suggestions for older ladies are often rather frumpy, I think.

Surely you try on clothes before you buy them and look in the mirror and make your buying decisions on that. By our age we should all have a pretty good idea of what suits us or not. Regardless what clothes are hung on in fashion photos

I am nearer the size of those models than most; size 10/12 with a 32B bust but what really defines what I wear and what suits me the facts that I have very narrow shoulders, a long waist which means my hipbones are virtually at my waist and most standard trousers are a comfortable fit around the armpits. and those delimiters have far more influence on how I look in something than seeing them on a stick thin model.

All those models stand in such silly poses that you cannot see what the clothes look like anyway. The only purpose of fashion photos is to give a rough guide to fashionable colours and features, like pussy cat bows etc. The girls are merely clothes hangers, not serving suggestions

Wish I had a 36dd bust never mind 34 inch waist yet I am a size 16. x