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'Unspoken' forum rules?

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Imperfect27 Sun 08-Oct-17 16:06:16

To my mind, this, like any other public forum is a 'free space' for us all. I have posted over many years, on many different forums, but never before encountered what seems to be an applied undercurrent of 'pecking order' based on longevity of membership. Maybe this is peculiar to GN. I truly do not know, but I am not imagining it. These seem to be the unspoken rules that SOME want GN to run by:

Long established posters may exercise the right to post sharp comments without apology or explanation.

Newbies must forgive this, but not respond (most likely because they 'don't know the back story to that poster's life.' )

Newbies should not have the audacity to suggest that someone may be out of order.

If Newbies want to disagree with established users, they are making 'accusations' and must provide evidence for any points raised.

PM - ing anyone is 'talking behind someone's back.'

If a newbie writes frankly and openly - in a polite way, they are still 'overstepping the (hidden) mark and it is ok for someone more established to take them to task about it.

Gransnet should be understood as a 'club' and new members should not comment on how it operates. If they do they can expect to be put in their place.

I am not being fascetious here. I genuinely want us to chew this over. These are the messages that I think do SOMETIMES get sent out. Is this what other people believe to be the case?

trisher Mon 09-Oct-17 17:39:58

That isn't interesting Chewbacca.
Don't think we had many supply teachers. We did have a lot of different games mistresses they kept getting married and pregnant

durhamjen Mon 09-Oct-17 17:37:23

And on topic, trisher. Don't forget that. Just agreeing with each other is so pedestrian.

Chewbacca Mon 09-Oct-17 17:36:48

We tried that when this thread was started trisher, and look what happened!

durhamjen Mon 09-Oct-17 17:36:25

Can't recall ever having any supply teachers. Our teachers must have been a healthy lot.
But the music teacher was dead easy to wind up.

trisher Mon 09-Oct-17 17:34:54

To all those who dislike the political posts-Post something interesting then!

trisher Mon 09-Oct-17 17:33:51

I never tormented supply teachers! The French master was much too reliable a target.

annodomini Mon 09-Oct-17 17:31:35

Hello Tom. Are you feeling like the supply teachers we used to torment many years ago in our unruly teens?

Chewbacca Mon 09-Oct-17 17:10:33

Correct M0nica. It was ever thus.....

Christinefrance Mon 09-Oct-17 17:07:09

Well said MOnica

merlotgran Mon 09-Oct-17 17:07:00

Never mind a thread about a thread, this is a thread within a thread. grin

M0nica Mon 09-Oct-17 17:00:55

This is rapidly becoming a political thread, a long way from the original subject of unspoken forum rules.

mostlyharmless Mon 09-Oct-17 16:49:09

Having been a member of gransnet for some years, I was surprised that one of my first posts (yes - on the news and politics threads!) was met with "ooh where is this person coming from? Was she directed to this thread? Wink wink."

Not sure what was meant by that. Did these two posters think I had been sent there from a political Movement (I think I posted about Brexit). It wasn't exactly welcoming and seemed to imply I had no right to post on there.

I did continue to post on politics threads and find it very thought provoking. I don't like it when it degenerates into squabbling and putting posters down.

This thread is a good discussion. Don't stop us debating it Gransnet!

whitewave Mon 09-Oct-17 16:18:18

bags no I’m ok with it it is just that I thought that it might be missed if you wanted to start a discussion about Scruton.

durhamjen Mon 09-Oct-17 16:11:23

I mind if these rich people use their power and authority to strip benefits from the sick and disabled.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dwp-disabled-people-benefits-legal-action-lose-government-work-pensions-department-frank-field-mp-a7886166.html

Particularly if they use taxpayers money to do so.

trisher Mon 09-Oct-17 15:44:06

And I don't mind people being rich or having wealth. do mind if these that wealth to substantially change something in our society, creating for example areas of completely uninhabited housing which is used purely as an asset. It changes cities and communities. It's wrong

durhamjen Mon 09-Oct-17 15:29:23

Day6, I hope you are watching parliament TV at the moment.
It's work and pensions questions about universal credit and about poverty caused by the Tories.

Baggs Mon 09-Oct-17 15:28:02

bags is that on the right thread?

Possibly not, but it follows some posts about political positions so I thought this thread was fine for someone else's (not mine) description of conservatism.

I can post it somewhere else if people are freaking out about it being on this thread smile

trisher Mon 09-Oct-17 15:06:46

No some of us are down the pub having lunch!

Iam64 Mon 09-Oct-17 13:39:14

Speak for yourself Charleygirl - I long to sit in an armchair knitting but I'm about to return to my domestic duties. Floors to clean, paint work to wipe down doggy shakes and toddler sticky fingers. Once I've worked through that, all those leaves and the mud on the patio area need cleaning up. I'm so grateful that I'm fit enough to do all of that and hope to get a row or two of knitting in this evening as I fall asleep watching something boring on the tv .

Charleygirl Mon 09-Oct-17 13:32:47

Welcome Tom, have you got a suitcase packed sitting beside you?

As you have read, we are not all sitting in armchairs knitting.

Iam64 Mon 09-Oct-17 13:27:10

Hello Tom, welcome to grasnet. Hope you enjoy it.

Imperfect, I'm not the best at remembering who everyone is and whether they're new. I do recognise some of the longer term regular posters even if they pop up under a new name.
My feeling is that generally its political or in the news threads that can get overheated. I've seen some new posters who are asking for advice and receive what some would see as rather harsh responses.

trisher - "oh don't bring up anti semitism again". This is one area where I do depart from JC and the people who surrounds himself with. I know this thread isn't the place e to discuss this issue and that it's already been explored on previous threads. I probably should have sat on my hands and let your comment go but I didn't. Having had my say, it's probably best to leave this one because it could become a thread about a thread, or dominate the interesting responses to Imperfect's questions.

whitewave Mon 09-Oct-17 13:19:08

bags is that on the right thread?

whitewave Mon 09-Oct-17 13:18:24

I think respect is much more sensible than kind.

Baggs Mon 09-Oct-17 13:17:26

The strengths and weaknesses of conservatism and what it has achieved over 400 years in Britain are set out in this essay by John Holbrook which critiques, in passing, Roger Scruton's new book, Conservatism: Ideas in Profile.

There are a number of comments too. I haven't read them yet but they may prove just as interesting.

Imperfect27 Mon 09-Oct-17 13:15:07

Welcome Tom. Buckle up and stay strong grin. Make of it what you will ...

Interesting to see how this post, like many, has meandered.
Just the way of it, but glad to see some earnest discussion. I tend to avoid the political threads as I think my views would be savaged and I don't have the level of knowledge that some have here. But I am a bit of a lefty.

Back to the intent of the OP though ... the way this post has developed makes me reflect that I am not one for a lot of conflict. Some people thrive on it, but I don't like it - so I will stay away from areas where that evidently happens.
However, there is a world of difference between avoiding the cut and thrust of vigorous argy bargy and wanting everything 'fluffy', 'nice' or 'sugar-coated.' Can't stand that either.

If we can't have a 'be kind' rule, can we have a 'be respectful' one instead? That shouldn't have to be difficult.