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Baggs Thu 31-Aug-17 11:02:28

Nanny state can bugger off re protecting adults from themselves as far as I'm concerned. How about addressing the problems some people have with addiction (drugs, gambling, whatever) by providing more mental health support?

maryeliza54 Thu 31-Aug-17 10:52:51

Re credit cards limits, banks should always lend responsibly for all our sakes - look what happens when they don't - e.g. sub-prime mortgages.

maryeliza54 Thu 31-Aug-17 10:51:10

I don't think it's a simple dichotomy - Nanny State vs talking responsibility for your own actions. Re betting, I think there is a real issue with the FOBT which are now the biggest money spinners for betting shops. There is real evidence that betting shops are much more common in very economically deprived areas. I don't see anything wrong with limiting the number of betting shops in a particular area ( not banning all of them) or limiting how much money the machines can be fed per minute ( again without banning them).

Grannyknot Thu 31-Aug-17 10:46:54

And I meant to add that once someone crosses the line into addiction/compulsive drinking or gambling, they are no longer capable of rational choice in the matter.

Grannyknot Thu 31-Aug-17 10:45:48

Compulsive gambling is an addiction. I don't think that betting firms can be held responsible for "failing vulnerable customers" - that would be like fining pubs for serving alcohol to alcoholics.

FarNorth Thu 31-Aug-17 10:39:40

I don't see how an online betting firm would know what its customers could afford.

grannysue05 Thu 31-Aug-17 10:31:48

I absolutely agree MawBroon We were brought up to take responsibility for our actions.
My grandmother always muttered 'consequences, consequences " when we acted irresponsibly.
We have become a Nanny State there is no doubt.
It has become the norm to blame others for your position in life.

MawBroon Thu 31-Aug-17 10:26:21

On the news this morning there was an item on an online betting firm being fined a huge amount of money (£8m) "failing vulnerable customers" and not helping them to limit their gambling addiction.
Yesterday, I think, there was an item on You and Yours about credit card limits being raised without the consent of the card holder.
My point is, at what point can we justifiably blame others for our own actions?
Nobody forces you to max out your credit card, to bet online, to drink sugary drinks (others are available) or to pig out on snacks and crisps.
If the corollary is the Nanny State where as adults we are not allowed to take responsibility for our actions , I for one would rather take my chance, make my own decisions and take the consequences.