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watermeadow Wed 28-Jun-17 21:28:56

As I'm going deaf I consulted Dr Google and immediately found it's not Deafness I have, it's Hearing Loss. It's not common in the Old but is in the Elderly, along with Mobility Problems (not Trouble Getting About) and being Visually Impaired, which means poor sight.
I also have trouble remembering that girls must be Women, school children have become Students and the Head Teacher is apparently American as he's called The Principal. I daren't tackle Ethnicity but what was black a few years ago is now People Of Colour, only doesn't include pink. My grandchild has red hair, for heaven's sake not ginger!
My pets are now Furbabies, the loo is a Bathroom. I can't keep up with what we mustn't say anymore so will stay dumb, O, sorry, non-verbal.

NfkDumpling Sun 02-Jul-17 14:31:07

I've always been careful to say Scots and not Scotch. Two different words, two different meanings. Nothing to do with politically correct. But I notice that Scotch is popping up more and more frequently on news reporting from people who should know better.

Blinko Sat 01-Jul-17 14:41:13

Furbabies....Yuk!

Marydoll Fri 30-Jun-17 20:55:04

I am fine with Scot. I hate it when people ask me if I'm Scotch. Scotch is whisky.

watermeadow Fri 30-Jun-17 18:14:52

I said Scotty with **s. My PC is not pc so corrected it!

watermeadow Fri 30-Jun-17 18:12:17

If a board which is black is not a blackboard, what should we now call a dog which is that unmentionable word? As in, "This is Macduff, my Scottie. He's a differently-haired West Highland White."
Whoops, probably not allowed to say Sctt* as offensive to Persons of Scotland.

sunseeker Fri 30-Jun-17 12:25:39

It is wrong to call it a blackboard - but it is OK to use the term whiteboard, double standards?

starlily106 Fri 30-Jun-17 11:46:37

I could never understand how a blackboard suddenly had to be a chalkboard. After all it was a black board, which was written on with chalk.
When my son was in junior school, he had a friend who was called Chocka by everyone, and I asked my son why. He said it was because his friends surname was Brown. It was ages afterwards when I met his friend that I found out he was black. To my son he was not a certain colour, he was just his friend. I think there are too many 'politically correct ' people around these days, sometimes causing problems with their opinions of what is right or wrong.

starlily106 Fri 30-Jun-17 11:24:27

I'm only 4ft 8. I am short, not vertically challenged. So there!

rosesarered Fri 30-Jun-17 10:49:07

Haha! grin

varian Fri 30-Jun-17 10:48:02

I've never liked to see "family butcher" or "cats eyes removed". Perhaps I'm too squeamish

Bagatelle Fri 30-Jun-17 10:43:49

I don't like 'disabled toilet'. They should call a plumber.

NfkDumpling Fri 30-Jun-17 07:49:51

I do have problems with colour. Why is it that someone who is mixed race, 50/50 black and white like Mr Obama, is classed as black?

A chap I used to work with always laughed at the fact he was the ethnic minority in the office. I thought it was a joke because he had a very strong London accent and it wasn't until he came back from holiday and I remarked that he'd acquired a very strong tan that he laughed and asked why, hadn't I realised he was black! I just thought he was rather dishy.

maddy629 Fri 30-Jun-17 07:28:20

My DSIL is half afro-carribbean and prefers to be called black although he's a lovely shade of brown.I sometimes refer to my two cats as furbabies, I love the word. Our toilet is a loo, our hall is a lobby and our master bedroom is, according to the grandchildren, the olds room.

Legs55 Thu 29-Jun-17 23:01:18

Nanna58 I too am Epileptic & don't find "brainstorming" offensive, irritating yes as it's just another Americanism. Also I have seizures, the term "fits" hasn't been used for some years.

I am Disabled, according to DWP I am classified as being "severely disabled" & entitled to extra money as no-one claims Carers Allowance for me. I do claim PIP.

I have a "disability" ergo I'm "disabled" not "unabled". if any-one said that to me they'd better be standing well away from megrin

As for Baa baa pink sheep that's silly beyond words, sheep are white or black generally, only pink if Farmer has sprayed them as they sometimes do with lambsconfused

pollyperkins Thu 29-Jun-17 21:27:02

Yes i was told to call black prople black but at my training session the (black) lady running it ended by telling us that , by the wa her elderly Jamaican mother refers to herself as coloured!! Its a minefield! Baa baa black sheep is in no way derogatory but merely descriptive. Whoever saw s pink sheep?
The term special needs covers such a wide spectrum from dyslexic to severely autistic that its a pretty unhelpful term.

Nanna58 Thu 29-Jun-17 21:24:10

The term special needs means anyone for whom the national curriculum needs altering, either to simplify for those who struggle, or to extend for those who find it too easy. Can't believe we can't use the term 'brainstorm' anymore in case it upsets epileptics, my friend with epilepsy finds this ridiculous.

NannyMcPhU Thu 29-Jun-17 18:47:17

Special needs means just that.

In the same way that Canis is a genus of canids containing multiple extant species, such as wolves, dogs and coyotes, so can the generic term 'special needs' encompass a variety of issues such as dyslexia, autism, learning difficulties, and physical disabilities such as hearing loss, blindness, mobility issues. etc ...right up to the gifted and talented.

watermeadow Thu 29-Jun-17 18:37:09

I've heard of playgroups who sing, "Baa baa pink sheep" and I was told off (25 years ago) for saying, "Put in black and white".
My dog had fits, not seizures. Why is the pc term always much longer than the old term?
As for Loo, I was brought up to say that because Toilet was common and American. Snobby words are different from pc ones.

MissAdventure Thu 29-Jun-17 18:19:29

Nope, and I work in that precise sphere. It has also been called 'complex needs'..

Nanny27 Thu 29-Jun-17 18:13:10

Can anyone please enlighten me on the term 'special needs'. It seems to me to be such a vague word that is intended to cover a huge range of things but in fact give no information at all.

Nelliemoser Thu 29-Jun-17 18:11:46

I think you now hear most black people prefer to refer to themselves as black. Black pride, "Black lives matter," "Black artists" "Black singers"

There was a program on Radio four this morning titled
"Black Art Matters" all about the achievement of black visual artists, painters etc whose work has tended to get overlooked.
Black is now a terminology of pride and identity used by black people.

Ana Thu 29-Jun-17 17:27:55

Their 'appliance'?! grin

lizzypopbottle Thu 29-Jun-17 17:25:00

When my children were at high school, at parents' meetings, the head of sixth form always referred to them as "your young people" which did make me cringe a bit but I can see the difficulty. They weren't small children. Those who'd turned 18 were officially adults. It still sounded pretentious, though. I hope she didn't refer to us as "your older/middle-aged/chronologically challenged people"!

I've heard people with disabilities referred to as 'differently enabled' and I'm happy to believe that anyone, whoever they are, might be able to do things that I'm not able to do.

It's a minefield though. I had a lovely visit from two firemen the other day, who installed a new smoke alarm for me. I was on the phone to my daughter (cis female offspring) at the time and said 'the fire brigade are here!' but of course, they are officers of the Fire and Rescue Service. I did remember to refer to their appliance rather than fire engine when I asked if it was OK to take a photo. My grandson is obsessed with Fireman (fire and rescue officer) Sam. ?

carolmary Thu 29-Jun-17 16:49:12

I was told by an Italian that they never refer to someone as having died but as "being no longer with us". Also my sister has an elderly Jamaican friend who always talks about "coloured people" She would think it impolite to be called a black person.
BTW, isn't "toilet" also a euphemism? Probably "lavatory" is too.Shall we go back to p* and s***?

devongirl Thu 29-Jun-17 16:36:48

Don't forget that lovely euphemism "economical with the actualité"