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paddyann Thu 22-Jun-17 20:12:59

I'm quite sure those 78 families on the list will be glad they're not in the same situation as the Grenfell tenants and they'll be happy to wait to be housed,its often the people with the least money who have the biggest hearts

durhamjen Thu 22-Jun-17 19:01:47

And they are in the same area, so not taking them away from anyone else.
I think a family whose home has burnt down through no fault of their own should automatically go to the top of the list, don't you?

Rigby46 Thu 22-Jun-17 18:44:29

What a very odd thing to say MOnica - why is it worth remembering? We might ask why more social housing hasn't been built in the first place regardless of the fire.

durhamjen Thu 22-Jun-17 17:43:21

I don't think any of them will be jealous, from what I have seen.
If you want to see a proper community working together and helping each other, look at the Grenfell survivors.

Anyway, as I said, another property developer could easily do the same.
Duke of Westminster, for a start. He has plenty of property round there.

travelsafar Thu 22-Jun-17 17:12:40

durhamjenwhen i mentioned jealousy i meant among some of the tenants made homeless by the fire.

Maybe not to start with but further down the line if they are not offered such good quality housing then it may cause an issue.

Hopefully i am wrong, but sometimes with human nature the 'green eyed monster' can take over in the most insidious way

Elegran Thu 22-Jun-17 17:10:54

But Monica these flats are ones which have been newly bought, and would not have been included as available properties which could have been offered to people already on the list, so their position on the housing list is no diferent from what it was. The Grenfell tenants are a special case outside the normal list.

Perhaps some of the Grenfell tenants will not want one of these flats for some reason, so some may yet be available to people on the normal list.

whitewave Thu 22-Jun-17 17:07:58

It is illegal isnt it? The government is only advising private landlords to look at their properties!! Bloody Tories cant get past their "property is sacrosanct" mantra

durhamjen Thu 22-Jun-17 17:04:57

There must be a lot of builders feeling worried at the moment. 7 towers clad in combustible materials already.
They can test 100 a day.

If the builders have used cheaper materials to those specified, I hope the book is thrown at them.

durhamjen Thu 22-Jun-17 16:58:11

What do you suggest, Monica?
Why is it worth remembering that?

M0nica Thu 22-Jun-17 16:52:23

I understood the block was always to be social housing. Note the plain brick exterior. There is a requirement in all developments to include a certain proportion of social houses and this block was part of that requirement.

While I am glad so many of the displaced families will be rehoused near home and with the same people neighbours, less the tragic losses.

But it is worth remembering that by allocating these flats to the Grenfell tenants, 78 other families on the housing waiting list who would otherwise have occupied these flats will now have to wait even longer, possibly a year or more, before they are decently housed.

Ana Thu 22-Jun-17 16:37:51

I think the block in question had originally been meant for 'affordable hoousing'.

Baggs Thu 22-Jun-17 16:34:45

Apparently there's a difference between "social housing" (to be rented like council housing) and "affordable housing" (to be bought at reasonable prices). I understood from what I'd heard that Grenfell Tower people were going to be offered "social housing" and not "affordable housing".

POGS Thu 22-Jun-17 16:23:10

Ttravelsafar

From the Prime Minister :-

"In the longer term, everyone whose home was destroyed will be guaranteed a new home on the ' same terms ' as the one they lost."

I hope that answers your question.

durhamjen Thu 22-Jun-17 16:21:54

Who do you think is really going to be jealous of someone who has lost their home and everything in it in that dreadful fire? Lost family and friends?
What a sick idea.

I think the builders should be applauded. I was hoping that someone with sense and feeling would do that. I notice the council have relaxed all sorts of regulations on working time so that they can get them finished as quickly as possible.
120 families have been interviewed about their circumstances already.
We need another philanthropic developer in the area.

Ana Thu 22-Jun-17 15:56:25

Grenfell

Ana Thu 22-Jun-17 15:56:06

And the rents will be set at the rate they were paying in the Grenfe Tower block.

Ilovecheese Thu 22-Jun-17 15:54:20

They are not being offered homes in the luxury block. They are being offered homes in a nearby block of "affordable" housing

travelsafar Thu 22-Jun-17 15:47:09

I was wondering if the tenants being offered new homes will be able to afford the rent in the luxury block and if they were receiving HB under the rules of the HB cap will they be able to pay the difference. Or maybe they are going to be charged at the same rate as their old homes.

This fire has caused much distress to both families and rich and poor, the government, local councils, communities, British and overseas people.

Now i fear it will cause more problems with jealousy if someone is not offered a luxury fully furnished home and some are.

Also people already living there who have paid a huge ammount of money to do so will not be happy i am sure