grenfell tower and new homes

No one has persevered with questioning the lack of sprinklers.

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/06/draconian-ridiculous-bizarre-how-top-tory-mp-described-law-for-compulsory-sprinklers/

I signed a petition yesterday so it looks as if Wandsworth council just went ahead anyway. What is happening on this country when so many sections of society are being treated so badly? And who believes the developer is in danger of not making enough money? AS IF!!!!!

Durhamjen - So Clwyd West voters know what to do!

Elrel, fortunately he's no longer a Brexit minister. Imagine what havoc he could cause. Conservative Home want him back, though. Makes me wonder how many of them are landlords or developers.

goodlawproject.org/petition/grenfell-disaster-petition/

A petition for an amnesty for all those survivors of Grenfell who perhaps should not have been there, as well as those who should.
The government needs to know how many people were there, but it appears there are many who are not admitting to it.

www.politics.co.uk/news/2017/06/20/calls-grow-for-an-immigration-amnesty-for-grenfell-survivors

Jamlima1108 Maybe not to start with but further down the line if they are not offered such good quality housing then it may cause an issue.

What i meant by that was, those not offered such good quality housing may resent those that were as time passes.

Whatever they are offered, it will be better than Grenfell Tower.
As a report I read said, nobody lived in Grenfell Tower if they'd been offered somewhere better.

Two of the victims were threatened with legal action after they campaigned for improved fire safety. They received letters from KCTMO ordering them to stop their campaign.

At the same time as Grenfell happens, with so many made homeless, the latest homeless statistics are out.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/cih-responds-to-homelessness-statistics/

How could London developers say they will not build the numbers of affordable and social housing that they agreed to when they were given planning permission?

I see what you mean now travelsafar, yes.

Let's hope that all that is offered is of a decent quality as it should be. Some areas must be better than others, perhaps those who do not have such a demand on LA or social housing and do update their stock in a safe manner.

Monica - I had been thinking the same as you. It seems the block of flats offered for the survivors is in addition to existing housing. Prior to that offer, I thought the Grenfell survivors obviously have to be first priority for any decent council home available, but, with the dreadful shortage of London homes, people on the waiting list living in B&B and other poor conditions, would be having a much longer wait. London social housing is stretched to the limit and this disaster has made things worse for all in need.

think-left.org/2017/06/23/what-does-inequality-look-like/

Anyone remember Bryan Gould?

But if the political will was there, thousands more social housing units could be built

Perhaps Kensington doesn't expect to have as many people needing social housing. A bit like Westminster and Shirley Porter's homes for votes gerrymandering.
I've just looked that up. It was called "Building stable communities"!

Political will - plus funding

The money is there in Kensington.

Political will implies that they will find the funding - they could try the magic money tree from which the DUP bribes are bring funded

It looks like this tragedy might be a watershed moment. It's becoming clear that the scope for further tragedy is far, far wider than tower blocks. On QT last night a member of the audience pointed out that Building Regulations have not been changed for 20 years, but I think there's been continual tinkering as government has been stripping away at so-called red tape. Other posters have mentioned sprinklers and the recent change meaning they're no longer mandatory in new schools. I hope a full review of the Building Regulations will now follow.

Yes - like Hillsborough, Bradford and Kings Cross improved safety at football grounds and on the tube. At least it means all the deaths and suffering improve the greater good as awful as the price others paid is.

I refuse to believe that anyone ,even someone who needs to wait a bit longer for a house,would be angry or jealous of someone from Grenfell getting housed first .I know there are some odd folk around but I do believe the best comes out in people under crisis

I saw an interview on TV with a woman who owns one of the luxury flats and she said words along the lines of "...it's not right that those people should be moved in." Now given that a good percentage of the 'affordable housing' was always to be social housing, what could she possibly mean?

Also, watch this short YouTube video from yesterday, uploaded by the Independent. Those who did not agree with the decision refused to be filmed.

Grenfell Tower What do local residents think?

You only have to look at the comments on the DM website to be convinced that a lot of people don't agree with the decision. Comments on articles about the tragedy have gone from outrage and horror, to bigoted and sneering.

They might change their minds when the results of the inquiry come out.

I don't think so dj. This is about the area where they're being rehoused and the quality of the properties. Apparently Kensington Row is in Kensington, but Grenfell Tower is in North Kensington and the two are very different. I'm not sure why people think like this because Kensington Row is part of a huge regeneration project. The development is on basically an old brown field site - the old phone exchange was one of the old buildings knocked down). To me regeneration projects usually mean the place was run down, which doesn't fit the the posh image of Kensington. Perhaps the project was supposed to be partly about integration.

If the posh people don't want the others living there, they can always move somewhere else. The Grenfell Tower people don't have much choice.

I wonder if they'll have a vetting committee.