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AIBU re MCR collection?

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Jane10 Fri 02-Jun-17 12:17:37

Just back from shopping. A nice lady was doing bag packing 'for Manchester'. I asked what this collection was for and all she could say was that it was to 'help' Manchester. I was puzzled. I understand the impulse to do something supportive but am not sure how just sending money would help.
Sadly there are many victims of terrorism, many of them are languishing in refugee camps. Would money collected not be better directed towards them? Obviously I'll be told I'm a miserable cow for thinking this but I do!

Jane10 Sat 10-Jun-17 10:59:16

I don't mean as an apology for his behaviour BTW. I meant that he was an apology for a Muslim.

Jane10 Sat 10-Jun-17 10:58:20

So the taxpayer could have to pay out millions of pounds due to this apology for a Muslim?! That doesn't feel right at all.

Katek Sat 10-Jun-17 10:32:25

It falls within the remit of the Ministry of Justice jane and is government funded.

Jane10 Sat 10-Jun-17 08:43:24

I hadn't realised that Katek. Where does this money come from though? It won't be recoverable from the murderer's assets?

Katek Fri 09-Jun-17 23:44:36

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned criminal injuries compensation. Victims of terrorist attacks are entitled to claim and awards can be up to £500,000.

stillaliveandkicking Fri 09-Jun-17 19:05:36

With respect. I believe that all religion is man made in the image of himself therefore women are the under-dogs. I cannot support this.

Penstemmon Thu 08-Jun-17 11:41:19

SAAK Do not include me in you fight for women's rights. I know loads of Muslim women who are British and some who are not but live in Britain. Their lives, opinions etc are as diverse as women on GN. The problem you have is that you see women who follow Islam as a homogenous group.. like saying all atheists are racists.

Jane10 Tue 06-Jun-17 17:20:40

'Cellotaphs' - excellent word Stansgran!

Stansgran Tue 06-Jun-17 07:40:59

My initial reaction to the Manchester bombing was that DH and I should send money for funerals as I knew the cost and realised many people would not normally have anticipated a child's funeral in their life. I'm another that hates the soft toys and flowers . We call them cellotaphs.

Granny23 Tue 06-Jun-17 00:52:21

Our current (and hopefully next) MP is Tasmina Ahmed Sheik. No shrinking violet, she defiantly does not hide her light under a Burka, or Hijab. She was born in Britain, calls Scotland home, is strongly feminist and a practising Muslim, currently fasting for Ramadan.

How do you feel SAKK about this strong woman fighting in Westminster for equal rights, particularly for the WASPI women, opposing benefit cuts/sanctions, removing tax credits from low paid workers and increasing NI for the self employed.

Would you vote for her?

mcem Tue 06-Jun-17 00:20:49

Ok. You choose to reiterate rubbish, ignore genuine comments and like TM ignore questions you won't/can't answer. Complete waste of time and effort.

stillaliveandkicking Tue 06-Jun-17 00:01:55

Im all for foreign sounding names. Im just not for a culture where even the women hide themselves.

mcem Mon 05-Jun-17 23:56:04

Re Saak's post at 18.19.54. If you didn't see ITV News at Ten I suggest you watch it on catch up.

mcem Mon 05-Jun-17 23:28:25

So still no answer to what you mean by mass immigration and no response to TM's arms deal?
Like anya I 'd like to know how you've fought long and hard for equality when you refuse to employ anyone with a foreign-sounding name.

mcem Mon 05-Jun-17 23:24:26

As far as I can see the 'head of my culture' has been very vocal in using every opportunity to support freedom and society so not quite sure how much more you'd want.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 05-Jun-17 21:50:24

No need to explain what I've done. The muslim religion is derogatory to women.

Anya Mon 05-Jun-17 21:46:27

In what way have you fought 'long and hard' for equality SAAK?

stillaliveandkicking Mon 05-Jun-17 21:28:12

No need to define Mass.

The muslim culture i know do not adapt to our culture. The muslim culture I know are confined and stay that way.

Why are the heads of your culture not putting themselves out all over the media and the press at every given opportunity in support for our society and our freedom?

mcem Mon 05-Jun-17 21:23:11

Define MASS.
The Muslim culture I know is adapting - apart from that very small conservative minority - just as Jews and Poles did.
Arms deals with dodgy middle-eastern regimes?
Don't think you are representative of British women.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 05-Jun-17 21:17:23

Immigration is out of hand. The key to this is the word "MASS"
"MASS" Immigration has pushed back rates of pay for working class people in our own country.

I did state that cultures and religions need to be transparent though and hide nothing.

I also think that being part of a society that is fighting still for equality the muslim culture has to adapt. It does not fit into a British society that I, as a woman want.

mcem Mon 05-Jun-17 21:02:46

1. Refer to an earlier thread where you said precisely that about foreign names.

2. I assume you now accept all the Jewish immigrants who have made a valuable contribution to this country. Maybe all the Poles who were so useful in WW2 and stayed on.

3 Don't you in any way give credit to the skilled immigrants who fill glaring skills gaps our native population can't fill?

Ps - arms deals with terrorist /Tory links?

stillaliveandkicking Mon 05-Jun-17 20:47:02

I have no idea what you mean mcem. Any country should put their own people first. If there are other jobs to fill after that then you're welcome to fill them. This has nothing to do with being Xenophobic in the least. It makes economic sense.

If however a culture came over here and showed that they were willing to integrate, over time this may change.

mcem Mon 05-Jun-17 20:41:20

Not prehistoric. Christianity predates Islam by centuries. In a transparent and equal society people wouldn't be turned down for jobs because their name sounds foreign to a xenophobic prospective employer.
By the way I seem to have missed your reply to my question about TM and her immoral arms deals.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 05-Jun-17 19:50:49

Myself and women before me have fought long and hard for equality, we still have a very long way to go. To have such a prehistoric religion foist on our country feels like we have gone back centuries.

I will not be dominated by a culture nor a religion that make this so.

stillaliveandkicking Mon 05-Jun-17 19:45:15

Being part of a liberal country means joining the ethos of that country not being in one yet carrying on something that will bring animosity.