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Now you can be gender fluid !

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NanaandGrampy Tue 23-May-17 20:21:42

UK's first gender-fluid policeman going by names 'Callum' and 'Abi' - The Telegraph

apple.news/A_gXNN3PZT2C2rVwulKG7mA

So....... you can now choose what gender you want to be depending on the day. I want to understand but I keep ending up back at ' what a load of tosh'!

What are your feelings?

Alima Wed 24-May-17 14:07:45

Ah, but Esspee, the gents loos always seem to smell horrid, think I'd take my chances in the ladies queue.

Esspee Wed 24-May-17 13:40:16

Look on the bright side, when there is a very long queue for the ladies toilet we can simply decide we are men. grin

Penstemmon Wed 24-May-17 13:20:47

I do think there have always been individuals who have been gender fluid the phrase makes me think of the opening of "Tales of the Unexpected"!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0itlB23fFY

Granny23 Wed 24-May-17 13:06:28

Alima - since DH needed to be accompanied to the Barbers, I have had my short hair cut there too and must say that the Barber makes a better job of it than any hairdresser. He charges £6 for a pensioner haircut and £10 for a ladies cut. He is full of banter so I insist that I am a pensioner too, albeit a lady one and will only pay for 2 pensioners' cuts. Then I give him a £4 tip and we are all happy.

NanaandGrampy Wed 24-May-17 13:03:22

Well he has chosen a name...2 names in fact Ican one for when he's being a man and one for when he's being a woman. So , its not like he has one name for all the days he has 2 depending on what he fancies that day????

icanhandthemback Wed 24-May-17 12:37:30

If nothing else, it must be an administrative nightmare. I don't have a problem with anybody being gender fluid if it makes them feel happy but why not choose a gender fluid name?

Alima Wed 24-May-17 12:31:14

This could prove quite cost effective for me. I have worn my hair short for years and get it cut every 6-7 weeks. Compared to what a bloke would pay it costs a fortune. Maybe I could bimble down to the unisex salon in male guise and take advantage of this. Result. (Just thought, would I be offered "something for the weekend?)

NanaandGrampy Wed 24-May-17 12:24:21

I have no problem with the transgender issue at all . I DO have an issue with a person who one day wants to be a man and everything that entails and the next be a woman and all that entails.

I have a bloody life LondonMz and I object to police funds , already in short supply, being diverted to shore up nonsense like this.

I don't mind which gender you want to be or even if you want to change gender but for gods sake pick a side and stick with it !

Lilyflower Wed 24-May-17 12:13:08

This isn't so much a question of gender as of good manners and a due consideration of the feelings sof ohers. Sadly, some minority groups have been ebcouraged to believe that their rights now trump those of their fellows when equality and acceptance were all that were needed. They will find that being demanding, vengeful and strident is not popular in our quiet, self effacing and well mannered society. THose who egged them on have done these minorities no favours.

paddyann Wed 24-May-17 11:51:26

LondonMzFitz well said,things change ,we cant stop them changing so accept it and move on .

Lazigirl Wed 24-May-17 11:49:48

Trans gender is not the same thing as gender-fluid as I understand it. You can switch back and forth as you feel and may be at different life stages?

Margs Wed 24-May-17 11:29:28

When a child becomes a teenager and reaches the 12/13/14 year old category then this is when puberty usually unleashes the tornado of hormones that virtually turn a young persons world upside down.

To take the step to switch gender whilst this uncontrollable turmoil is taking place is surely unwise. Especially if the decision is made because "some of my mates are doing it"......and when it all settles down, then what?

Therapists, and especially the quack variety, are surely raking in fat fees for handing down 'advice' which at best is even more confusing and at worst can lead to thoughts of self-harm and suicide. God forbid......

Lazigirl Wed 24-May-17 11:00:11

I think this is a difficult issue for us to understand particularly if we are not directly affected by it, but it is interesting that many young ones can accept the concept without prejudice. Personally I think how we view gender is conditioned by society's norms, and in many non Western parts of the world gender fluidity is quite accepted.

LondonMzFitz Wed 24-May-17 10:52:11

I think the point is "those who can't make up their minds" have decided, and they don't want to define themselves as a gender.

I have a friend who is transgender, the heartache she went through, and I see her now with her family, totally accepting of her, and it makes my heart glad.

If it ain't bothering you, go get yourself a bl----y life and leave 'em in peace.

sarahellenwhitney Wed 24-May-17 10:25:52

How sad for those who can't make up their minds who they want to be.Is there nothing better in their lives?
Take a long look at the world around at the sick and the incapacitated who have no options to pick and chose and the word that comes to mind for the 'undecided' is get yourself a bl------y life.

KatyK Wed 24-May-17 10:19:48

My teenage granddaughter tells me about the gender fluid pupils at her (all girls) school. I don't understand it but she treats it as the norm.

chrislou Wed 24-May-17 10:12:59

The world has gone mad, it drives me crazy and I don't think it is of any help to young people at all

radicalnan Wed 24-May-17 10:04:02

Always enough money for the fad of the day. I see people making themslves a nice living out of this sort of thing and encouraging others, vulnerable people, to identify with them, where is it all headed? People used to manage by just being themselves and getting on with life now there is the need to force the rest of us to notice and be 'aware'. It won't be long before people come up with some extention of this, people will find a way to draw attention to themselves because we reward that behaviour.

There are transgender people with whom I have some sympathy, but I am not sure they are helped by the current perceived wisdoms........just becuse we can drug and butcher people into shape doesn't mean that really helps them.

Time for this nonsense to be put to bed but Dicks won't be the person to do that, she is a fully paid up member of the let's waste time and money brigade.

Luckygirl Wed 24-May-17 09:04:59

My DD has a friend who "identifies" as neither or both and has changed her name to something that is neither male nor female - and is indeed not even a name at all!

Transgender I can just about deal with - although I think if we were more tolerant of males/females adopting characteristics associated with the opposite gender, some of the surgery and treatment would cease to be relevant - but this is a st4ep too far and a hell of a waste of Dick's time.

MawBroon Wed 24-May-17 08:49:27

I read this in the DT this morning
It comes after the Met’s new commissioner, Cressida Dick, said she wanted diversity to be at the heart of her time in office.
Speaking just after she started the role last month, she said she believed “passionately” that forces should represent the community they serve.

All I can say is that it is not a community I recognise and that I might have hoped that protection of the individual, effective policing and supporting an egalitarian and fairer society might have deserved her "passion" too.

merlotgran Wed 24-May-17 08:16:36

But that plan has a certain weakness....I'll have change them back again to clean up after myself

merlotgran Wed 24-May-17 08:14:18

So when I feel like chucking my dirty clothes on the floor, leaving the washing up in the sink, leaving a mess in the bathroom and hogging the remote control while ranting at the telly, I can just alter the last two letters of my non-binary name and go for it!

Sounds good to me grin

Anya Wed 24-May-17 08:13:30

Don't get your knickers/underpants in a twist about this

NanaandGrampy Wed 24-May-17 08:10:15

Never a truer word spoken Granny

grannypiper Wed 24-May-17 08:09:32

The world is going to hell in a hand cart and we only have ourselves to blame.