Non binery people

I don't understand the term. I thought everything to describe had already been named?

Just something else for the Snowflakes to stress about.

Why cant people just be who they are, i dont mean sex or gender.Cant they just be so and so that lives there, works here or goes to that school ? Bloody attention seeking is what it is.

Rigby46!

Rudeness and drinking! Are you sure you are a genuine old person?

Sigh - or as they ( too much wine)

Or has the would say on MN less politely RTFT

Read the thread, maddy

Non binary? What's that?

My DD has just had my DGS2, he is a boy also a baby, but primarily a boy. When anybody asks what did she have they expect to be told girl/boy not oh she had a baby

My DD is in a Lesbian relationship, they went through a Civil Ceremony over 7 years ago & had this converted to a Marriage when the law changed so there is no bias there. I know both my DD & DiL have no interest in being described as "binary".

These people are what my DF would have referred to (lightheartedly) as "middlesex" or another common saying "don't know whether they're Arthur or Martha"

As for wanting to be referred to as "they" or "them" words fail me, I'm only 61 so not old by any means, quite what my DM (she's 88) would say, probably not be repeatable & she's broadminded

my cousins child has just started gender reasignment and a friends child who had three horrific years fighting cancer has also made the decion to go from female to male.I have to say the support both these (now) giirls are getting from school/college and their communities has been amazing.I think if gender reasignment had been available and easier to get decades ago there would have been a lot of young people who would have had it done then too.We have a family friend who is gay ...he married age 20 and has 6 children...because thats what was expected of him.Surely its much better that people can be who they believe they are than live a lie like they had too as recently as the late 60's Iam64 theres a huge difference between a tomboy and someone born in the wrong body

A number of us have posted, as 1974cookie did above, about our so called 'tomboy' ways as children. I was an avid reader of anything at all but especially the Famous Five, Secret 7 books and of course, Little Women. I never identified with the 'girly' characters and between about 6 and 9 would probably have chosen to be a boy. Boys had more comfortable clothes for tree climbing, bike riding, fishing in the local pond and many more exciting games. The tv, books and fairy stories were full of tales of daring do and rescue, always with boys at the centre. Girls were usually to be found whimpering in a corner. No wonder so many of us identified with George (famous 5) or Jo rather than Beth in Little Women.
I'm not minimising the difficulties adults and adolescents experience around gender and sexuality As I said earlier, I don't support giving meds to pre pubescent children in order to suppress sexual development.

I saw that interview too BlueBelle. I have absolutely no problem with how people wish to be defined at all. If people want to be gender neutral, then who am I to question them?
However:
Only one thing made me feel dreadfully uncomfortable about this interview. 'Fox' produced a picture/reading book aimed at children from the age of 3 years of age with the message am I a Girl or a Boy?
I do not wish to offend anyone, but I find this very worrying.
I was a real tomboy as a child. I was more interested in building dens, climbing trees, and playing with my Brothers train set than playing with dolls a lot of the time. My Parents very wisely saw it as a tomboy thing. I did not have a problem with who I was then, or even now. I am very much a Woman, and happy to be one.
What if I were a child now, and given that book?
I can only imagine several years of counselling, and a deep seated identity complex.

A (new for me) good word jane . I am going to let it slip into conversation that I often practise the art of "tautology".

Filled in a form the other day. Choices were [Male], [Female], [Other]. Didn't get it at the time but now I understand.

I think "most least" is fantastic! I shall use it at every opportunity!

It's tautology gilly(saying the same thing twice in different words)

A changing room full of men in skirts getting ready for swimming is fine; but I would prefer they did not import their danglers into the female changing room

Oh I dunno Luckygirl it might give all the "trouser wearing" girls a good giggle. after all, some "danglers" will dangle more than others

My grammar is so bad janeainsworth although sometimes even I can recognise a boo boo when I make one.

The "most least" just seems so much less than just the least though doesn't it?

My husband never misses an opportunity to be funny. This morning he was at the chemists picking up a prescription for me. When they called my name, he said "that's me, I'm non binary". The pharmacist fell about laughing.

Is it me but all minorities seem to get so much attention. It's always poor me. As long as people stick to the law and obey the rules. Treat everyone with compassion, respect and are sensitive to the people around them. They can be who they want to be. Have the religion they want but in their own time. Why do the rest of us have to adjust what we do. Whoever I meet its up to them to discuss how they feel about themselves. Then I know where they are coming from and treat as appropriate. It seems it's assumed everyone is prejudice against everything which I am certainly not. I also think children should be treated sensitively but major decisions should be taken when they are adults.

How very silly all this labelling is - and utterly pointless. People should be allowed to dress entirely as they wish without having a label stuck on them.

What we do not want is for biological gender to be overriden when it comes to public toilets or changing rooms. A changing room full of men in skirts getting ready for swimming is fine; but I would prefer they did not import their danglers into the female changing room - where most will be wearing trousers no doubt.

gilly-
Can you be the "most least" ? Just wondered

You don't need the 'most'.
'DiL is the least domesticated person'
Or you could have put 'DiL is the most undomesticated person'

But personally I prefer the first version

My DD's best friends are a lesbian couple. She worked with one of the girls for many years and introduced her to to her now partner. They are often at mine as neither girls have family in the area where they live. I am their "Northern mum". My grandchildren have known them all their lives and never made any mention about them being two girls or the fact that one of them dresses (and looks) like a boy. Until one Sunday afternoon when we were sitting having tea my DGS (then 5) piped up "K, are you a mummy or a daddy?" I was mortified until she answered "Well, let me see, I don't have any children of my own so I guess I'm neither" "Oh I see" he said and carried on eating his cake.

ISHOULD HAVE SAID SHE'S IN HER THIRTIES