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Help. Mouse ok. Rat NO!

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Cherrytree59 Mon 13-Mar-17 10:53:10

Yesterday morning whilst sitting in conservatory watching birds happily feeding in our garden, DH spotted something scurrying behind planters on our patio.
On the third occasion I also saw it, but my eyesight is not very good & couldn't see what it was.
DH thought a mouse,
he said it was more rounded than long (in the body)
but as I was able to see it from about 12ft away I am worried that it could have been a rat.
We have provided a good food
buffet source due to feeding birds which are exceedingly messy with their food of peanuts, different seeds and meal worms (we have also provided meal worms for our over wintering hedgehog)
We have 2 elderly cats but they are not hunters even the birds ignore them.
However having cats means that no other cats visit our garden
So it is a safe haven for the critters.

Advice please.
I don't want to harm a mouse but what if it is a rat ?
It was on the patio very close the back door.
It has probably got young
And most importantly we have toddlers that play in our garden

Poison down is a big No No
All I can think of is we will have to put traps down.

If it is mouse it is probably a field mouse as we have fields nearby

Greyduster Sat 14-Apr-18 12:00:25

Since I posted earlier in this thread, we have had a rat in our garden. It was eating the food I had put out for the ground feeding birds and taking some back to a gap in the side of the steps that lead to the top lawn, into which it disappeared. I saw it pop it’s head out again but when it saw me, it went back in so I promptly got some bricks and blocked up the hole! We had a look around the shed and saw no sign in there so called out, at considerable expense, the council pest controller, who put a couple of bait boxes down once the hole had been unblocked again. He came again last week to inspect them and said none of the bait had been touched. He is coming back again soon. I think the little b****r is lying low until the bait has gone and then he will come out with his mates and party!

NanTheWiser Sat 14-Apr-18 11:54:35

Reported!

GregoryMondragon Sat 14-Apr-18 11:42:34

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BBbevan Sat 21-Oct-17 19:06:27

When we moved into our new house the previous owners had thrown lots of food on the compost heap and filled a bin to bursting with old frozen stuff and things from the fridge. We hadn't been there long when we saw rats. We cleared everything up. Bought proper bins for the rubbish and cleared the stuff off the compost heap. We have had no trouble since. We do not, sadly ,feed the birds now

Liz46 Sat 21-Oct-17 09:38:44

Sadly we had to stop feeding the birds when our neighbour acquired a rat which ended up in her loft. She was horrified.

MawBroon Sat 21-Oct-17 09:28:42

Reported.
Somehow I saw it coming,didn’t you? wink

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MesMopTop Fri 20-Oct-17 07:43:58

I don't like to use poison as many creatures that eat the mice and rats end up dying too, owls especially. Not good for the environment. Maybe not leaving food lying around is a start. Good idea planting bushes and trees that produce berries the birds can eat.

VincentWilliams Wed 18-Oct-17 10:54:25

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aggie Tue 27-Jun-17 21:39:09

they are adorable !

bikergran Tue 27-Jun-17 20:46:56

like these grandtante? lol my dd cat has recently had kittens..their getting ready to go to new homes...(noooo!I am not! having one)!

Phoebes Mon 26-Jun-17 12:49:12

Get a cat!

grandtanteJE65 Mon 26-Jun-17 09:54:11

Even elderly cats that feel the mice are too quick for them can be a deterrant. Do yours use a litter tray? If so when changing it, leave the used litter standing for a bit where you saw the critter, thus alerting it to the fact that its public enemy no. 1 lives with you.
Both rats and mice can cause considerable damage to electric wiring etc. so if getting rid of the bird table doesn't solve the problem, I am with those who suggest calling the rat catcher.
Unless your cats and you would consider an apprentice mouse and rat catcher in the shape of one of the many kittens looking for a good home?

DanniRae Mon 26-Jun-17 08:45:46

No bikergran they don't! I bought one from Coopers and after a while the bl**dy mouse just used to run past it. I saw it do it one evening when I walked into the kitchen. We had to get the experts in eventually. They found a hole that was hidden by furniture in the wooden door frame of the back door and blocked it with wire wool. Result = No more mice. But he said not to leave any outside doors open or they will get in again! Great in that really hot weather!!

bikergran Mon 26-Jun-17 08:13:52

you can buy electronic plug in that apparently send out a high pitched signal (humans cannot hear it) have a google they sell them in Wilkos...think you get 2 in a pack about £29 no idea if they work....

Sillynanny65 Sun 25-Jun-17 23:02:39

I too have seen a rat in our garden, I have stopped feeding the birds. Our neighbors have put down a lot of decking in their garden. I have been told that Rats love this, as they are warm and dry and can breed without worrying about predators. I called our local council as I am convinced they are coming from next door garden. After about a week and half some one from the council did come, she had gone next door and suggested that they put poison down, and so should we. I won't leave my garden door open, or front door open, as I am terrified one could get into,the house. Is there anything else I can do to deter them from coming close to the house. Help please.

maddy629 Sun 25-Jun-17 22:53:46

I always feed the birds and hedgehogs, never seen a rat, although living in a rural area I'm sure there are some around. The only droppings I ever see are those left by hedgehogs.

We do have wood mice come into the house but they don't stay around, in any case I use a humane trap filled with hay and peanut butter and then I let them go in the morning.

Lorelei Sun 25-Jun-17 22:52:26

We put food (and water) out for the birds, squirrels and foxes year-round. We do get some mice in the garden, including a few the cats have come home with, but I have only ever seen 1 rat (and 2 hedgehogs) in 20+ years. Unless you see more or they come up to/into the house I wouldn't panic just yet. At the moment we have adorable fox cubs to watch nightly - maybe their parents deal with any rats or mice smile

stevej4491 Sun 25-Jun-17 22:47:20

I have rats on the "payroll"so to speak ,living right against fields and a pig farm ,what else can I expect,Roland and his family disappear from time to time.Although I dont care for them they are fascinating to watch.I've fed the birds for over thirty years,but only get Roland &co occaisionally.

Luckygirl Sun 25-Jun-17 22:33:29

Slaymore in a piece of old drain pipe and hide it away somewhere - under a shed etc away from humans. Rats love drain pipes and will obligingly pop in there to take a look and eat the poison. Domestic animals cannot get on the pipe.

rosesarered Sun 25-Jun-17 22:29:24

You can get rats even in enclosed bins ....we did once ( just one rat) but obviously it makes it harder than the the open types.

RAF Sun 25-Jun-17 22:06:20

Enclosed compost bin was supplied for us by recycling focussed son, I guess rats would love the worms in there too, but fingers crossed they have not come back!

GrandMareS Sun 25-Jun-17 20:35:01

Being envious of a friend who has the most amazing garden and birds coming to feed from the feeders, inspired me to do the same. However, I get squirrels (furry rats) crows, magpies and very fat pigeons. Not going to continue!!

rosesarered Sun 25-Jun-17 20:25:03

That's good to know, but what about RN compost heaps and SAS ones?grin

Jalima1108 Sun 25-Jun-17 20:22:07

RAF compost heaps are nice and warm and good for breeding, said the rodent inspector when he came.