Queen Camilla

Philip was never made king, he has always been Prince Philip. they could have made him a king. (historically, Princess Mary, James 11 daughter, married William of the house of Orange, when they came over to England, he became King william, so it can be done)

Camilla can be Princess Camilla, if Charles 'has' to be king.

Ah but Charles wants her to be his queen and why not. Would it really matter? In fact it would show his devotion to her, which is genuine for a change!

William and Mary applied to parliment for co regency

Camilla cannot be princess Camilla just as Diana was not princess Diana , neither are Royal

I don't like the word "can't". It can be changed.

Not everything can be changed

Oh heck.. find myself agreeing with AnnieB again (we really must find something to disagree about soon) but the idea that Prince William should succeed to the throne over the POW is absolutely ' b.... .ks (sorry Annie). Even the younger members of my family find the Cambridges workshy, boring and according to DD2, who is always one to speak her mind ... Up Their Own Bottoms ( she actually used a worse word). DoC is nothing more than a clothes - horse, revelling in her status. Prince Harry is in the enviable postion of being able to cherry pick his do-gooding for the best locations. Both men should be doing a proper job, given the times we live in.
Lay off the POW.... he's a thoughtful caring individual IMO.... given the rarified atmosphere he's been brought up in.

No Brexit can't be as the majority voted for it Anniebach But this can if the "majority" don't mind, and I for one don't.

I would not mind her being Queen Camilla. I like her, but I am afraid I go against the grain as I did not like Dianna.

Have to say I like Camilla more than I ever liked Diana too rafichagran, Diana knew what she was getting into.

Diana was an unhappy woman, should never have married Charles and I think she was very manipulative. Camilla has made Charles very happy, she has behaved with dignity and she seems good fun and 'unstuffy' although of course one never knows what really goes on. Queen Camilla would be all right with me.

The scary thing is how much power they do actually wield. But I would rather him and camilla as head of state than options such as the blairs/Camerons. When Diana died and everyone was about to lynch the queen, it was almost possible that Diana's ghastly brother could have been head of state - such was the fever of our crazy citizens. Bit like Brexit. Sometimes the populous is a bit mental.

GillT57 Fri 24-Feb-17 13:15:10 I agree with your position on this post. Charles was a very nervous and shy young man. As was his Granddad George V1. His own father seemed not to be at all sympathetic towards his son. Most of the time Charles looked very miserable. He changed when he married Camilla.

Bravo willsmadnan ,i agree with every word ,

Nelliemoser, so right about Charles , he was a gentle, nervous child , under petticoat rule of his Grannie who must have drummed what was to be expected into him from the cradle, just as queen Mary did with queenie, imagine taking on the QM and queenie ,

bet uncle Davids alleged betrayal was his bedtime story whrn in the cradle

I believe queenie and .phil had an arranged marriage , QM only married poor Bertie because dear David wouldn't marry her

All 'allegedly" of course we don't really know do we and can only surmise what goes on in any family. Historians have been known to get things very very wrong you know, let alone the press and documentary makers.

oh and allegedly joanna lumley was prince philips muse for many a year

Muse? What do muses do?

They don't have to actually do anything!

Lord Mountbatten was a great influence on Charles's early life as well, and had strong ideas about what sort of a wife he should choose.

Of course he wasn't around when Charles actually met and married Diana, I'm not sure whether that was a good thing or not, tbh...

I really don't think the Queen and Prince Philip had an arranged marriage.

Royals adulterous? Do tell. Charles nervous and bright married to a dreary dunce? Do tell. Harry wild and crazy? Do tell. Phil the Greek? Who would suit every MNetter? Nobody.

Grandmama, why do you say Diana should not have married Charles. She loved him, she didn't know he already had Camilla willingly on the back burner. Can you cast your mind back to your wedding day, when you married the man you loved and trusted. How would you have felt if your husband had someone else before the wedding cake was cut. She was publicly humiliated. What ever you say about Diana she didn't deserve that, she was a great mom and Had a natural way with everyone she met. Camilla might have tied the line since her wedding to Charles, but Shane on her fir what she did.

Yes they do. They set us apart and bring in rather a lot of revenue.

It's well known that artists used to shag their "muse" so whilst there isn't a definition and just a general saying on my behalf. I will let you contemplate/make up the rest mrsmopp.

Never wise to put anyone on a pedestal. We are all human beings at the end of the day but I love what they represent and always will.

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