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mrsmopp Thu 23-Feb-17 23:12:34

Prince Charles is campaigning for Camilla to be Queen Camilla when he becomes King. I would not like her to be Queen. I think they both behaved appallingly in carrying on their affair when they were both married to someone else. They had no concern for the hurt, upset and heartbreak they caused Diana and Andrew PB. They just thought it was perfectly OK to act as they did. It's 80 years since Edward abdicated to marry a divorced woman, and Margaret was not able to marry Peter Townsend, even though she was unlikely to ascend the throne. So what rules have changed? He has what he wanted and married her, but making her Queen is condoning their adultery.
But I think I'm in the minority in my view.

radicalnan Fri 24-Feb-17 12:37:05

The 'Defender of the Faith' couldn't be faithful..........its like a Monty Python sketch..big ears, mutant kids, what do we need them for? Andrews girls are gruesome. Harry is, well who knows who Harry is, on the payroll that's who he is, and bringing home that daft American bint, goodness me all the choice he must have had and he picks her.

We don't need them, the tourists will come to see the palaces.

When Queenie dies, get rid of them all. Beatrice, Eugenie and Mehgen can go straight to Madam Taussauds now, bloody freaks.

I wasn't that keen on Diana (you may have surmised that I am not a monarchist) but at least she looked the part.

gillybob Fri 24-Feb-17 13:01:33

Don't hold back whatever you do Radicalnan grin

GillT57 Fri 24-Feb-17 13:15:10

Gracious, some very strong opinions on here! I think that the entire Charles/Camilla/Diana episode was a tragedy that need not have happened. It is obvious that Charles and Camilla were together before he married Diana. he was manipulated into a royal marriage by the blessed Queen Mother and the dreadful stepmother of Diana, both were Edwardian in their outlook and evidently saw no problem with a wife for heirs and a mistress for pleasure, different times, different attitudes. Diana was happy to take the job I think, and I do get disturbed by the sainthood around her, the public outpourings when she died was unbelievable, However, back to the OP; yes, Camilla is consort, and has handled the public life and often nasty treatment, with decorum and dignity. Those who prattle on about morals and example are a bit behind the times, nobody, even the future King, should be forced to stay in an unhappy arranged marriage just to fulfil the public's idea of a fairytale wedding and life. he is as entitled as the rest of us to admit his mistake and move on. the fact that his sons are both happy to be with Camilla in public is good enough for me. Princess Margaret chose her royal life and privileges over the possible marriage to Captain Townsend, and we all know how that ended. If you have no divorce in your family, you are fortunate, if you have, then try to be a bit understanding.

Sheilasue Fri 24-Feb-17 13:32:37

Quite like her actually, though Diana was lovely she was much to young for Prince Charles. I don't see what the fuss is lots of people divorce and remarry etc. We are living in 21st century the royal family have changed anyway.

GillT57 Fri 24-Feb-17 13:38:16

The 'Royal Family' as a concept was an invention of Queen Victoria. Prior to this, the fornication and philandering went on without any consideration for the thoughts of the public. They are an anachronism, but I do not wish to see them abolished, and certainly do not wish Prince Charles to die before his mother, as some do on here, what a nasty thing to say angry

willsmadnan Fri 24-Feb-17 13:44:42

Very well summed up, GillT. There are some very vitriolic comments on this thread, by people firing from the hip who haven't bothered to consider all the facts before hitting the keyboard. It's very 'off with their heads' from the anti-monarchists, without a sensible solution between them.

newnanny Fri 24-Feb-17 14:05:51

It is difficult to have respect for that pair after their poor behaviour. If they can't stick to marriage vows then why should they be trusted to stick to vows to their country? Charles finds it very hard not be be offensive by meddling in politics and environmental issues. I wish the crown would bypass Charles and go to William.

merlotgran Fri 24-Feb-17 14:15:11

Why do you think William would make a better king than Charles, newnanny?

Anniebach Fri 24-Feb-17 14:30:29

Charles has no right to have views on the environment newnanny?

GillT57 Fri 24-Feb-17 14:30:56

What is so offensive about Charles having concerns about the environment? Or being interested in the politics that affect the everyday lives of the population? Would you prefer a pompous King who stood waving on balconies? Ridiculous in this day and age. If we took the correlation between marriage vows and vows to country, then what about doctors who take the hippocratic oath or soldiers who promise to serve Queen and country, should they be dismissed or distrusted or struck off because they have the misfortune to make an unhappy marriage?

pollyperkins Fri 24-Feb-17 14:57:13

I think Charles takes his role very seriously and will be an excellent King. Agree he shpuld have married Camilla in the first place as the were clearly in love before either married but he was sent into the navy out of harms qay as she wasnt deemed suitable and when he came back she was married to P-B.
I think since their marriage she has behaved with dignity and has been supportive and Charles is clearly much happier. I didnt have much time for Diana who was very manipulative . The princes seem to accept her too so why shouldnt we? However I seem to remember Charles saying at the time of his marriage to Camilla that she would not be crowned queen so he shouldnt change his mind now.

Peewww Fri 24-Feb-17 15:36:29

I think the monarchy needs to get up to date. Unfortunately Charles is a product of his upbringing and will do nothing to appeal to the young. One only has to look at the work the Princes do to see how popular they are. I fear for the monarchy if Charles takes over.

Norah Fri 24-Feb-17 15:48:02

If Charles didn't care about the environment or politics I'd be quite upset. But he does care about a sustainable future, for everyone.

GillT57 Fri 24-Feb-17 16:06:36

I don't agree that Charles doesn't appeal to the young; to the contrary he is very actively involved in a quiet non showy way with wonderful groups like the Princes Trust, and his concern for the environment and things such as GM crops and sustainable agriculture should interest or at least concern everyone, irrespective of their age. I do realise however, that there are a lot of Diana fans, people who see the whole ghastly situation in black and white, and see Charles as the baddy and the sainted Diana as the Queen of Hearts (yuk). To these people, Charles will never be acceptable, which is regrettable. I do find it odd though that many of those who consider Charles unsuitable for the crown, sometimes suggest that Anne would be better.....most odd as she too is divorced, and re-married with a living ex-husband?

Anniebach Fri 24-Feb-17 16:22:41

And Anne was having an affair with her now husband when married to number one

Why should a monarch appeal to the young , the young are not interested in the windsors and a king who had been divorced wouldn't bother the young,

As for William an Harry doing so much work, no, they make sure they make camera appearances , Charles does a lot more but age doesn't sell newspapers.

Harry is too like his mother, a manipulator and a look at me person.

Camilla behaves in public as the Windsor women are expected to behave

Rosina Fri 24-Feb-17 16:34:33

I am a bit puzzled to hear that Charles is campaigning - where? and to whom? Or is this the Daily Mail again?

Secondly, when he married Camilla the constitutional experts were saying that the wife of the King is the Queen - end of. What has changed?

ValC Fri 24-Feb-17 17:13:58

I'm with Mrs Mopp, what has happened to the old values. I agree that she should never be queen, and I would like the throne to go directly to William when the Queen leaves us for a more peaceful world.
I would rather have no Royal family at all than them as monarchs.

merlotgran Fri 24-Feb-17 17:19:01

I don't think you can blame the Daily Mail. Charles started his campaign many years ago. It's nothing new.

Smileless2012 Fri 24-Feb-17 17:19:07

I don't like the thought of King Charles and like the thought of Queen Camilla even less.

Smileless2012 Fri 24-Feb-17 17:27:02

I think that when their marriage was looking like a distinct possibility the constitutional experts were saying that Princess Ann would be his consort instead of Camilla being queen. It was certainly felt at the time that the public wouldn't accept her as queen.

Luckygirl Fri 24-Feb-17 17:29:28

What she is called is irrelevant. I just think it is a bit tasteless for Charles to be campaigning on this issue before his Mum has even died.

Ana Fri 24-Feb-17 17:34:48

I don't see why. He couldn't very well do it afterwards.

BTW the thought of Charles with Anne as his consort made me laugh! She's grumpy enough at the best of times, and I don't think she and Charles are terribly close...

starlily106 Fri 24-Feb-17 17:42:47

I don't like her and hope she doesn't become queen. I think when they were planning to marry the idea was that she wouldn't, be as the public feeling was

starlily106 Fri 24-Feb-17 17:44:21

against it.

Sorry, this tablet has a mind if it's own at times.

stillaliveandkicking Fri 24-Feb-17 18:30:02

I like her. Poor Charles was "pushed" into marrying Diana. Let's face it most of the aristocracy have affairs galore anyway but keep up the facade. They obviously genuinely loved each other for a very very long time.

I'm fine with her being queen.