Queen Camilla

Charles admitted to adultery after hus marriage had broken down.

If one's husband had an affair and left one distraught , broken hearted etc, and tell the world there were three in the marriage, would one want to be the third in several womens marriages in full knowledge the same suffering was being experienced by those women ?

Its not the fact that he had an affair. Lots of people do, it life, its people, its nobody else's business.
I just feel that living a life in the public eye, accepting the privileges that go with being a royal, becoming defender of the whatever, carry a certain responsibility to do the right thing (or at least be seen to do it)
Charles didn't. The public have softened considerably towards Camilla, and he should content himself with that.

The Duchess of Cornwall (Camilla Shand as she then was) and the Prince Charles began their relationship in 1970, at a polo match before either of them were married. Friendship grew into romance, with Camilla often spending time in the Prince's apartments in Buckingham Palace. Charles and Camilla soon were frequently seen out together enjoying themselves.

Camilla eventually married Army officer Andrew Parker Bowles in July 1973 shortly after Prince Charles was sent abroad on a naval posting. Andrew Parker Bowles was a friend of the Prince of Wales and a apparently a godson of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother

Camilla's relationship with Charles continued as friendship. Charles became a regular guest at the Parker Bowles' house and was a godfather to their first child.

Camilla was official escort to the Prince during the Zimbabwean independence celebrations in 1980 (Charles did not marry Diana until 1981).

Throughout it all, Camilla declined to make any public comment. After her divorce from Andrew Parker Bowles, she had moved to Raymill House, a 30-minute drive from Prince Charles's Highgrove home. This made her contact with Charles much easier, and they could stop relying on discreet friends with country houses offering them accommodation.

Camilla was not popular with the British public at this time. The airing of the 'Camillagate' tapes, mobile phone conversations between Camilla and Charles, which had been plucked off the airways by a scanner, did not help her image. She said in the tapes 'I'd suffer anything for you. That's love.' And Charles said that he would like to 'live inside your trousers', with a reference to a tampon thrown in.

The Prince of Wales later made a public admission, in a television interview with Jonathan Dimbleby, that he had in fact committed adultery. The Parker-Bowleses soon announced their divorce in 1995, although they had been living apart for some time. Andrew Parker Bowles soon remarried.

Diana had originally been a friend of Camilla, but later started to refer to her as"the Rottweiler". Diana understood Camilla had known before she did, that Charles was going to propose marriage to Diana. And the Princess of Wales publicly blamed the extra-marital relationship between her husband and Camilla for the break-up of their marriage, saying "There were three in the marriage, so it was a bit crowded."

Interesting reading:

uk.pinterest.com/l2footemartin/ukdiana-betrayed-by-charles-camilla/

Camilla is a Grandmother – She has two children from her first marriage and five grandchildren. One of her grandchildren, Eliza Lopes, was a bridesmaid at William and Kate’s

Just google Camilla, Charles and Diana and there's lots more.

Watching the documentary series on the Windsors last night it suggested that a young Charles was told he couldn't marry his girlfriend Camilla because of her past. If it's true then he's just as much a victim as anyone of them from the ridiculous rules and morals which are part of their lives.

If we have to have a royal family and monarchs then just let her have the title of Queen. Does it matter?

would those who are so against Charles because he had an affair refuse to accept a teacher who had an affair from teaching, refuse treatment from a doctor who had an affair? Never bother to call for a police officer , risk is far too high

I am still using my Charles and Diana wedding souvenir tea towels.
Amazing that they have lasted as long as this! They were half price the week after that wedding! I bought a set of 6 as they were linen.

I think Diana and Charles were as bad as each other!
I don't agree with cheating whether you're royalty or not!
I don't think he should be king and if he takes the throne she shouldn't be queen

Surely rumours were around quite soon after her death , within two years it seemed all except her milkman wrote a book. I can't remember how long the ghastly Burrell took , her fortune teller didn't take too long. I don't know if Kitty Kelley wrote one, one of her books on the royals was banned in this country

I have noticed quite a few links on Facebook to sites that purport to provide salacious details of Diana Princess of Wales' voracious sexual liaisons. I have not been tempted to look at any of them and suspect that at least some, if not all of the details and allegations are false. She's been dead for 19 or 20 years; it's the time to besmirch, just as the time following her death was the time to sanctify and it all brings in advertising revenue.

As mindfulness is suppose to clear the mind of all except for the present moment is there any difference to mindlessness I ask?

oh dear, too many pancakes

Mindfulness. There is a Ladybird book about it.

Mindlessness is supposed to be good for you anniebach

Or was that Min*ful*ness?
Can't remember at the moment

What a dreadful representation of a worthwhile forum which can offer wise advice and sympathetic support when needed.
Get a grip!


I realise that life is not all Hee Hee Ha Ha but sometimes, just sometimes, a bit of daftness can lighten up the threads - we can't be wise all the time and doling out tea and sympathy can take its toll on a person!!

Has no-one anything better to do? I'm off to do something more interesting like cleaning the loo!!
That's why I was on here - a bit of gossip is better than cleaning the loo

Love it... one of GNs best put-downs

her step mother worked at his shop

Of course they would have done DNA testing- it is very easy these days. I am tempted for family history reasons having been to a family history talk on it.

Back to serious discussion, Merlotgran, I cannot recall the name of the American, he invited Diana and her sons to his home in America, I don't think the Windsor children visit america do they? Anyway it was regarded as a security risk for the children - not for her ! mmmmm? It was then she arranged the holiday with Al Fayed, her step mother worked at his shop. Al Fayed dragged Dodi away from the girl he was engaged to and it all happened then. I was surprised given her views on drugs she didn't have a problem with poor Dodi and his little habit

I am not the brightest coin in the mint but I am not mindless , well not too often

I'm sure no one even entertains the notion these days - it was all speculation and, yes, gossip a long time ago.

In this day of DNA sequencing anyone who worked for them, could get hold of something belonging to Harry and Charles and find out whether Charles is his father. There has been nothing so we can assume he is Charles' son.

Maybe HQ should also have their wrists slapped for putting it on 'Discussion of the Day.'

Well, seeing as Diana's dead and no fresh scandal seems to have come to light, it's hardly 'shades of les tricoteuses'.

And I doubt whether any one of us has spent more than a few minutes on this thread, never mind 'hours'...

My reaction to the opening post was 'so what?'
Couldn't believe it was still going when I looked back today so quick skim read showed republican spite at one and of the spectrum and fawning sycophancy at the other!
I gave 2 examples of what I see as GN's strengths but didnt suggest that discussions should be limited to those topics.
Maybe because I saw it as one enormous dollop of mindless tittle-tattle rather than the drip-feeding that posters experienced over a few days?
Not wasting hours gossiping?
Chatting over the garden fence or shades of 'les tricoteuses'???

Now then, Anniebach, Do tell me more about this American who seems to have escaped my radar...