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mrsmopp Thu 23-Feb-17 23:12:34

Prince Charles is campaigning for Camilla to be Queen Camilla when he becomes King. I would not like her to be Queen. I think they both behaved appallingly in carrying on their affair when they were both married to someone else. They had no concern for the hurt, upset and heartbreak they caused Diana and Andrew PB. They just thought it was perfectly OK to act as they did. It's 80 years since Edward abdicated to marry a divorced woman, and Margaret was not able to marry Peter Townsend, even though she was unlikely to ascend the throne. So what rules have changed? He has what he wanted and married her, but making her Queen is condoning their adultery.
But I think I'm in the minority in my view.

Anniebach Mon 27-Feb-17 14:17:23

Then Ten Commandments are not the commandments of the church, they are the commandments for Jews and then became the commandments for Christians because Christ the founder of the Christian Faith was a Jew

Elegran Mon 27-Feb-17 14:17:25

Family dumped? Never hear about her sons?
Launch of her son Tom's cookbook 18 October 2016

and Tom Parker Bowles opens up about his 'brilliant' mother Camilla

Anniebach Mon 27-Feb-17 14:18:38

Camilla had one husband not husbands

Yorkshiregel Mon 27-Feb-17 14:19:07

ok, she had a boy and a girl. Not two sons. Two children anyway.

www.biography.com/people/camilla-parker-bowles-9542218#relationship-with-prince-charles

Yorkshiregel Mon 27-Feb-17 14:20:33

Anniebach please allow for typos and predictive text. I wish we had edit on here but we don't.

Jalima Mon 27-Feb-17 14:20:45

I don't know where you find your misinformation Yorkshiregel!!

I think the reason Camilla kept on her country house is so that she can see her own family and grandchildren (DGC from her son and daughter) in peace as I can't imagine that Charles is a 'get down on the floor with the step-grandchildren' type of step-DGF - although I am sure he is perfectly lovely to them when he does see them and can show them his garden and encourage them to talk to his plants
smile

Anniebach Mon 27-Feb-17 14:23:03

Yorkshiregal, I said nothing about typos, just explained what you were mistaken over

Jalima Mon 27-Feb-17 14:23:10

Her step-sons seem very fond of her too and presumably the step-grandchildren are as well.

Anniebach Mon 27-Feb-17 14:27:39

As for best friends for a long time, Diana was twelve when Camilla got married

GillT57 Mon 27-Feb-17 16:22:44

Lots of misinformation Yorkshiregel. You are of course completely entitled to your view and opinions, but it is a bit underhand to back them up with untruths. Camilla and Diana were a generation apart, hardly great pals, and your comments about Camilla having children with another man are full of insinuations. You were lucky to be able to marry the man you wished, and your marriage has been a happy one, why should you deny that to anyone else?

Beammeupscottie Mon 27-Feb-17 16:33:52

I expect it is a loyalty to the Peoples Princess! But she has gone, so why deny her ex. some happiness?

MissAdventure Mon 27-Feb-17 16:44:55

I have no loyalty to Diana. Its the hypocrisy that gets my goat.

GillT57 Mon 27-Feb-17 17:33:11

What hypocrisy? Plenty of that about. Choose between Charles making his marriage vows knowing that he loved another woman, or the 'Queen of Hearts' manipulating the public with her Martin Bashir interview, all doe eyed, all victim, while she too was having an affair? Hmmm....

Anniebach Mon 27-Feb-17 17:55:24

And the caring Diana , doting mother, was so miffed that her sons adored Tiggy she claimed in public Tiggy had an abortion , they are still close to Tiggy, Harry is godfather to one of her children and they still visit her .

willsmadnan Mon 27-Feb-17 19:21:16

I'd forgotten 'Tiggy-gate'. Not very saintly of the Blessed Diana. More like the behaviour of a spiteful child in the playground. I think Tiggy was a breath of fresh air after the clinging, weeping mother act that the boys had to endure.

Chewbacca Mon 27-Feb-17 19:33:56

Good grief! The sanctimonious spoutings about the 10 Commandments is ridiculous in this day and age! Of course everyone who gets married experts and hopes that their marriage will last for ever but many do not. Charles and Diana were clearly unsuited but they produced 2 lovely children who clearly loved both of their parents very much. Camilla - ditto. I do hope that those posters who are castigating these couples are never faced with situation of having one of their own family members embroiled in a marital split, it could lead to disaster. confused

merlotgran Mon 27-Feb-17 19:43:33

I can't think of anyone more suited to be Queen than Camilla. She has grown into her role and now knows how to get it absolutely right. Always supporting, never upstaging. Her sense of humour is evident whenever a public occasion veers into the ridiculous. She brings out the very best in Prince Charles. No wonder he adores her.

Anniebach Mon 27-Feb-17 19:47:58

Tiggy is a lovely person, we always know when they are visiting, police, helicopters etc. When they were young she use to take them on great adventures, tickling fish, rock climbing, even absailing on bridges, canoeing , camping in the grounds of the estate , the things most youngster do here, when Harry was here on army training he spent more time sleeping at the estate than in the camp. And no cameras, no press, they had such freedom . Diana could have done the same but chose not to yet was jealous of Tiggy.

Chewbacca Mon 27-Feb-17 19:49:08

Agreed Merlotgran. Camilla is just about the most sensible and down-to-earth person in the royal circle. Especially when you contrast her to the shenanigans of Sarah and Andrew and a few others.

merlotgran Mon 27-Feb-17 20:08:44

To be fair, Anniebach, I was no Diana fan but she did take the boys on lots of 'adventures' (of the Thorpe Park and jet-ski-ing kind} They may have been photo opportunities but the boys appeared to be having a whale of a time.

I'm afraid my imagination will not stretch to the image of Diana tickling a trout or abseiling over a bridge. grin

Each to their own.

Jalima Mon 27-Feb-17 20:16:08

I wouldn't be unkind about Diana as I think she was a victim of her upbringing, her naivity and what happened after the marriage. She needed to be loved and she wasn't so turned to the public for adoration.
She loved her boys and they clearly adored her and miss her still today but that was the love of a young child for a parent and she saw little of them because they had to go away to school of course.

Anniebach Mon 27-Feb-17 20:34:48

I am being fair Merlotgran, all you list the cameras were there, she informed the press of the Thorpe Park trip, the skiing was every year, most of the windsors do it, an annual holiday. She was furious when she was stopped taking her sons to America to stay with the American she was seeing, she was stopped because of security risks, it was then she took them to fayeds yacht and the cameras had great shots of the boys on the beach. Little wonder William disliked the press, she paraded her children for the press. I was sorry she was so needy but she was not nineteen when she did the fayed revenge . I don't understand why this - she needed love is put forward as an explanation for all the unkind acts

merlotgran Mon 27-Feb-17 21:17:00

What American? Before Dodi Fayed she was involved with Hasnat Khan. That's well documented.

Anniebach Mon 27-Feb-17 21:43:07

Yes, then the American but it was very short time, not sure if he was to be the one to take over from Khan but the holiday being stopped led to then D Fayed. I do know the Khan affair was quite serious, his sister lived in Stratford and a friend of mine use to see her drive often to see the sister .

What the real person was truely like we will never know will we? I do wonder about the talk that she suffered from BPD.

Jalima Mon 27-Feb-17 23:32:02

I think she suffered from severe pnd
That combined with no help or sympathy