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Remember Tebbit's speech - what would YOU do?

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granjura Thu 22-Dec-16 14:13:59

If I lived in a war torn country, or a country where there is little hope of an education or a future for my kids- I would be on my bike- or on a boat. I'd risk everything, I think, to try and get myself and the family to safety, and a better future, an education, healthcare and a job... And if need be, I'd go first to find a way, then send the family- or I would get all the money together I could, to send my OH or my older son... to find a way to later bring us along too.

Wouldn't you? BE honest here.

Ana Thu 22-Dec-16 22:05:38

The facility is there - perhaps you should complain to GNHQ Annie if you think it shouldn't be.

granjura Thu 22-Dec-16 22:25:09

Doesn't make it any less rude. But I don't mind.

As for the article, of course it is humorous- and humour often hides real problems with real issues, with real people. The article was published because there has been a lot on social media, as I reported- about (mainly) young people saying that they were dreading going home for Christmas and being confronted with the 'the people have voted, so suck it up, and worse- by elderly parents, aunts and uncles- as they would find it very difficult to hold their tongue and not 'retaliate'. You obviously are not familiar or involved with those sites, so perhaps not aware. For my sins, I am.

DaphneBroon Thu 22-Dec-16 22:34:50

I think much of it is tongue in cheek and as we are now by default the "elderly rellies" I hope none of our family feel that they were likely to need to have that conversation here.

DaphneBroon Thu 22-Dec-16 22:35:53

But could we restrict Brexit posts to Brexit threads please? That way we know what to avoid.

merlotgran Thu 22-Dec-16 22:39:05

Well, there may be a few scenes reminiscent of 'Till Death Us Do Part' but I fail to see why Brexit should overwhelm Christmas?

These young people you talk of will be going 'home' no doubt to be waited on, gobble up all the food and drink, open their presents and hopefully join in the fun and games.

If they don't have the good manners to suck it up themselves and remember that their elderly relatives had a right to vote in whichever way they chose then they are horrible individuals and I wouldn't want them to set foot across my doorstep.

I actually don't give a toss about what's going to happen in those homes. It's their problem.

Jalima Thu 22-Dec-16 22:48:17

Hear hear merlotgran

Tell them to stay where they are and stuff their own nut roast, if Aunt Gertrude voted Brexit it's because she probably knows more about what the world was like pre-EU than any young whipper-snapper.

Yet another boomer-bashing excuse.

Jalima Thu 22-Dec-16 22:49:33

I am getting completely confused now, is this about getting on your bike or Brexit?

I feel as if I've been at the sherry with Aunt Gertrude.

Anniebach Thu 22-Dec-16 22:50:09

Ana, it must be there for it to be used. I have no intention of running to GNHQ to complain. I think it unkind and is used to mock , so said so.

DaphneBroon Thu 22-Dec-16 23:16:12

As long as Aunt Gertrude doesn't insist on getting on her sit-up-and-beg bike after she has been at the sherry........??

Ankers Fri 23-Dec-16 08:02:52

How on earth are some posters supposed to know that some posts come across from other threads?

grannypiper Fri 23-Dec-16 08:46:35

If anyone is looking for Aunt Gertrude, she is hiding in the understairs cupboard with me glugging the sherry AND the brandy

DaphneBroon Fri 23-Dec-16 09:07:14

Some of us me are confused.com enough!!

Jalima Fri 23-Dec-16 09:34:17

Surely Aunt Gertrude is not driving after all that sherry - or even attempting to get on her bike? tchshock

granjura Fri 23-Dec-16 10:15:24

Nah, auntie Gertiewill take the bus home, just as she did last year ;) bless:

A warning to all my lovely friends, be careful about drink driving as we are getting near to Christmas the police are out in numbers spot checking people. The other night I drove to meet friends at the pub thinking I would just have a coke but as u know me I couldn't resist having a few drinks! I knew I was over the limit so I left my car where it was and took a bus home, sure enough, I passed a police patrol car where they were pulling people over and performing breathalyser tests. Because I was in a bus they just waved it past, I arrived home safely and without incident which was a real surprise as I've never driven a bus before and I am not even sure where I got it from .

DaphneBroon Fri 23-Dec-16 12:07:44

I think we are all old enough (and as my FIL used to say "ugly enough") to know about drinking OR driving ourselves, but yes, I do recognise the chestnut anecdote.
The old ones are always the best ones, aren't they? tchhmm

rosesarered Fri 23-Dec-16 12:19:21

Not always! tchgrin

rosesarered Fri 23-Dec-16 12:21:05

Well said Merlotgran22:39:05

granjura Fri 23-Dec-16 13:24:42

Glad you enjoyed it Daphne, yes an old joke, but a friend put it on her FB yesterday and it made me giggle.

GrandmaMoira Fri 23-Dec-16 14:21:02

To return to the original question, I'd not really thought about it before, but I think if I was young I'd probably try to move to a country with more opportunities for me and my family, as the refugees are doing.
In the early 1950s my family moved from Scotland to London for a better job, which was much the same thing (but without any civil war etc. obviously).

TerriBull Fri 23-Dec-16 14:43:40

I recognise the "Xenophobe" that has been discussed on this thread, we had one in the family, my late father-in-law, who would be over 100 now, but always had only two subjects at family gatherings golf, (yawn!) and then when that was exhausted he would launch forth into his pathalogical dislikes which would start with the French, (not that he'd ever been there or knew any French) foreigners per se, spicey food, particulary Indian. His daughter, my sister in law, went out of her way to include Indian food at her family gatherings always making sure he had a samosa or two on his plate purposely to wind him up because he annoyed her. Most of us would visit France at least once a year so we responded to his anti French rants by pointing out that he had never been there, it was a beautiful country with great food etc. My side of the family is awash with foreign blood, so I wondered sometimes if he was having little digs at me because I'm not British through and through. However, I like to think he was part of a dying breed. We are all getting together over the Christmas period and we, as a family, encompass different views over Brexit, we discussed these at the time of the referendum and just afterwards, appreciated each others points of view. It's not something we have, or will fall out about we are too close for that and will be busy entertaining the very young members of the family.

gillybob Fri 23-Dec-16 23:50:17

I have laughed and laughed and coughed my guts up at your drink drive warning granjura thank you tchgrin

granjura Sat 24-Dec-16 09:32:47

LOL, as pointed out, it is an old one- but a friend posted it yesterday and I thought it was apt ;)

Now here is one posted by a nephew yesterday which is really on topic- hilarious and tragic at the same time- do watch it to the end though:

Aussie's Message For Refugee And Muslim Haters.

granjura Sat 24-Dec-16 09:36:11

www.facebook.com/LooseAussieBloke/videos/1221162814629947/

Would love to hear a Scouse or Geordie version, Peckham or Boston...