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Don't want to completely hi-jack the 'Christmas in four words' thread so I've started this one. Feel free to shoot me down. I don't do flouncing. 
Some time ago, the 'What does Gransnet mean to you?'thread developed into a 'Bring back jingl' campaign. Despite this, it has become clear that we are not entitled to an explanation as to why she is still shackled to the naughty step
We inhabit a goldfish bowl which must be respectable to the outside world looking in on an ageing cyber community. Old people are only expected to be curmudgeonly in books and TV nonsense. Manufactured threads about growing old disgracefully are perfectly acceptable so long as they fit the approved template which has been set by people who are NOT as old as we are.
All well and good until a situation causes a ding-dong. We must be ever mindful that Gransnet is a business relying on advertising revenue. Swearing is tolerated on Mumsnet because it's acceptable in the young and feisty whereas the 'one foot in the grave' club have to leave all that behind and remember our opinions don't really count any more.
The political threads are argumentative because that's politics. You can't put a straight jacket on a well informed if opiniated point of view which is as it should be. Folk who hide behind the sofa when all hell breaks loose should know better than to get caught in the cross-fire.
So....We're allowed to moan about Brexit, complain about our aches and pains and chat about telly dramas/adverts/music. We willingly offer support to complete strangers even though it often comes back to bite us. I'm not the only one who can spot a set-up. Above all, we must remain bland!
There were two members who railed against this. One is sadly no longer with us and the other has been kicked into touch for being too outspoken. Unsurprisingly, they rarely saw eye to eye but that's LIFE!
I'm off to put the joint in the oven. I might even start a thread about it. 
Only joking!
Oh I see Jalima. Surely the whole point of being on GN or any other forum is to state things in a post, cannot see you reasoning here. I have not been rude I have merely said I will ignore a poster whom I find irritating. That's all. Sorry I don't fit into the simpering agree with everything/everyone bracket.
On the one hand people are saying GN is way too bland , then on the other quite the opposite. What it boils down to as far as I can see is that if you are part of the clique then say what you like, if not then be a good old granny and sit quietly and read, but don't whatever you do post, unless of course you agree with every single gem( Not) dropped by the Queens of the clique.
Yep. Sozzled...
It was the mincemeat!
Candlefran, I was asking whether you are a returning GN member now posting under a new name. You do seem familiar somehow, and you mention not noticing any changes in the last three years.
I'm sure you knew what I meant really, but of course you don't have to answer! 
That's dreadful wot. 
Is it allowable to question a poster's sobriety? Surely not! 
Pardon Ana? 
oh, sorry, we are not allowed to mention
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