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Discrimination against ENGLISH students

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FarNorth Fri 14-Oct-16 21:18:58

England has a correspondingly larger population to support its students.

rosesarered Fri 14-Oct-16 20:57:50

Because FarNorth there are far too many students in England, Scotland only has a small population.

SueDonim Fri 14-Oct-16 20:53:26

This is nothing new, it's been the case for years. Scottish/EU would-be students pay for it by having fewer places available to them. There are strict limits on how many Scots/EU students can go to Scottish universities while any number of RUK/Overseas students can attend.

Ana Fri 14-Oct-16 20:31:47

Welsh students at Welsh universities only pay about a third of the usual £9,000 plus.

FarNorth Fri 14-Oct-16 20:27:53

No-one is providing free tuition for English and Welsh students attending English and Welsh universities.
Why not campaign about that?

Ana Fri 14-Oct-16 20:27:01

No wonder Scotland's budget deficit is the largest in the EU and double the rate of the UK as a whole.

rosesarered Fri 14-Oct-16 20:25:58

Yet another reason to be glad we are leaving the EU then.

FarNorth Fri 14-Oct-16 20:24:15

"Because of European law, the Scottish government also has to provide free tuition at Scottish universities for students from other EU countries - but not for those from other parts of the UK.
Essentially this is because it is possible to discriminate between students from different parts of an individual member state but not to discriminate against those from other parts of the EU."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23279868

"The standard tuition fee for an undergraduate degree course in Scotland in 2016 is £1,820.
The Student Awards Agency for Scotland (SAAS) will pay these fees if you meet eligibility conditions; for example, if you are a Scottish resident and/or a qualifying non-UK EC student.
If you come from the Rest of the UK (RUK), universities in Scotland will charge you variable fees up to a maximum of £9,000 just like England and Wales.
Undergraduate Scholarships and Bursaries are available for eligible students from England, Northern Ireland and Wales to help offset these higher fees."
www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/university-tuition-fees/going-to-university-in-scotland/

rosesarered Fri 14-Oct-16 19:51:53

Why indeed? Another question to be answered by the ghastly Sturgeon.

Yorkshiregel Fri 14-Oct-16 19:48:44

I wondered what other Grandparents think about this report:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/14/john-swinney-announces-eu-students-will-get-free-tuition-after-b/

European students can get FREE tuition in Scotland, but ENGLISH students or WELSH students cannot. Would you say this is discrimination because I would. Why aren't student unions urging English/Welsh students to protest on the streets? Not forgetting that for the next two years at least England/Wales are still part of the UK and also the EU.

I wrote to Mrs May, all I got was a standard letter saying she had passed it on to one of her minions in the outer office.

There must be English Grandparents who have Grandchildren who are being discriminated against. How come Scotland is getting away with this? EU Rules clearly state that no member of any EU state can be discriminated against by another, so why are English students being targeted by Scotland and why are they getting away with it?