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Luckygirl Thu 06-Oct-16 12:30:04

www.itv.com/news/central/2016-10-05/five-year-old-gives-theresa-may-a-telling-off-about-the-homeless/

Jalima Sat 08-Oct-16 18:08:03

Why does this bring to mind Violet Elizabeth Bott?

hmm

Eloethan Sat 08-Oct-16 00:20:24

I have some concerns about very young children, however genuine and spontaneous they may be, getting involved in this sort of political haranguing. I agree with much of what the child says but if it were a young child praising Theresa May, for example for her stance on immigration, I would feel there could be a perception that a child was being used as a propaganda tool.

However, I do think some of the comments here are getting a bit silly now, and also a bit worrying. How one goes from a little girl saying what she thinks to imagining her being viewed as a mini-dominatrix I can't imagine. As luckygirl said, there is loads of quite innocent footage featuring babies and children. In any case, children are seen in public all the time. If some very sick people see a little girl in a dress playing in a playground and find it arousing, does that mean little girls shouldn't wear dresses in public?

Penstemmon Fri 07-Oct-16 22:54:07

absolutely with you on that Lucky

Luckygirl Fri 07-Oct-16 21:49:55

Where did the paedophile idea come from? Who has dreamt this up? There are millions of vids out there with children on. The problem of paedophiles is not solved by hiding children doing normal things from the internet, and more than the problem of terrorism is solved by us all staying at home.

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 20:22:18

'No, I do not know the family, and did not know anything about them until I saw this thread.'

From my previous post.

Ana Fri 07-Oct-16 20:09:57

Do you know them durhamjen?

Penstemmon Fri 07-Oct-16 20:07:27

willsmadnan It is time that there was a more effective way of dealing with paedophiles..however one of them is not locking up our daughters and keeping them hidden from public view. They are not the problem.

Penstemmon Fri 07-Oct-16 20:01:34

willsmadnan thank you they, and we their parents, had huge fun,and still do. We are a close & joyful family. Being actively committed to certain politics/ campaigns does not automatically make you dull and serious.
We(& they) have made lifelong friends through Amnesty etc. and they have developed strong social consciences. They work in jobs that they hope will improve things for people generally, have lovely families and friends. I do not think it did them any harm at all!

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 20:01:33

I am pleased to say that all my grandchildren care about the homeless, and want Theresa May to build more houses for the homeless.
The mother is an actress.
My eldest granddaughter is an actress.
Maybe I just see things in a different way because of this.
I am glad to live in my world.

I am glad that paedophiles is not the first thing that comes into my mind.

Maybe I also have empathy because my husband died from a brain tumour, and I know what that family is going through.
No, I do not know the family, and did not know anything about them until I saw this thread.

All I saw was an eloquent little girl pleading with Theresa May to build houses for the homeless.
I am on her side.

Ana Fri 07-Oct-16 19:52:13

Penstemmon, of course there's nothing wrong with having a confident, articulate child who can express her feelings about a social problem so eloquently.

My only objection is to the posting of the video on the internet. I think the mother was wrong to do that and nothing will persuade me otherwise.

Penstemmon Fri 07-Oct-16 19:46:58

I would think that the NE is far from fairyland! It is those (me ) living in the more affluent SE that would be better described as living in fairyland.

This parent has made a considered decision about her child. I would be very pleased to have a confident and articulate 5 year old that understood that is was clearly wrong for so many people to be sleeping rough.
Some grannies disagree with the mother's choice, some don't.No need to get personal. #morematurediscussionneeded

willsmadnan Fri 07-Oct-16 19:44:47

It's not the way my mind works... it's how it is, you silly woman. Get real!

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 19:40:13

I am sorry for you, willsnan, if that's how your mind works.

willsmadnan Fri 07-Oct-16 19:37:05

What sort of fairyland do you live in DJ, up there in the North East? A film, girls in ads doing gymnastics, are not the same thing as a little girl-- on Youtube -- looking directly into the camera --wagging her finger, like a mini dominatrix. How naive can you get? Let's say it as it is... that video will have been passed around on the 'dark 'internet. Even now someone out there may be ... let's not beat about the bush...... masturbating as they play and replay it. Sorry if that upsets your delicate sensibilities but that's how that it works.

Ana Fri 07-Oct-16 19:35:54

Oh, and your 'thought not' was very childish.

Ana Fri 07-Oct-16 19:34:38

Yes, I did watch it. It didn't change my opinion in any way.

What the mother says about her daughter is fair enough. She is 5 and of course kids that age see things as black and white. But I still don't agree with posting the video online.

Do you know this family personally, durhamjen?

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 19:16:03

Have you watched the mother's video saying that her daughter was not exploited?

Thought not.

That means that no children should have their pictures on the internet because of paedophiles salivating, does it, wills?
Lets hide them all away, shall we?
No ads for schools showing girls doing gymnastics, dance or any form of PE?
No films with young girls?
Matilda was quite precocious and pretty.

Ana Fri 07-Oct-16 17:39:24

Political point-scoring seems to be all that matters to some posters.

Ana Fri 07-Oct-16 17:30:52

Exactly, willsmadan.

Shame on you, durhamjen that your primary concern is that Theresa May should see the video, not that this child is bein exploited and will never be allowed to forget her 5 year old 'performance' angry

willsmadnan Fri 07-Oct-16 17:04:45

What's wrong with it going viral? Here's a pretty, precocious little six year old girl whose image is going global. Wonder how many paedophiles have downloaded it, and are salivating ...or worse. Hardly responsible parenting I would have thought. Still, as long as Mummy gets her political views over.....

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 16:54:09

The idea of posting it on the internet, surely, was to get Theresa May to see it.

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 16:53:18

So it's okay to do it, providing you don't think it will go viral?
What's wrong with it going viral?

The mother does online videos as part of her work. The daughter knows that.

If you just want to criticise, I hope you have watched the mother's justification.
She comes from a long line of ranters about injustice, as does the girl's father.
Good for them, I say. The mother is an actress, too.

Ana Fri 07-Oct-16 15:56:17

No one's saying she shouldn't have been allowed to do it, but was it wise to post the video on the internet? The mother must have had an idea it could go viral.

Lillie Fri 07-Oct-16 15:40:36

Anya grin

durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 15:37:47

What was the mother supposed to do, then? Say to the girl, no you can't do that, but you can sleep overnight in a sleeping bag in your own doorway, just to see what it's like!

Being slightly more serious, I'd be allowing her to do anything she wanted to do.
Her dad has just had a second operation for a brain tumour. He is having chemo at home, and is having fits. They are putting off having radiotherapy at the moment, to give as long a gap between the first and the next.
If telling the government off for allowing homeless people to sleep in doorways takes her mind off it for a few minutes, good.