Who next ??

I worked for a toy company back in the eighties and bribes presents were the order of the day - crate of wine, new bike etc. The rule there was if we were given anything it was put in the MD's office and at the end of the year we had a big raffle. Now that I work for myself I don't even get a bottle of wine, obviously my spending power is not great enough

Who next? Does it matter we don't have a decent team anyway.

What does make me wonder about human nature is that some people , who to all intents and purposes have everything - talent, money or a dream job always seem to blow it .

Its like they always want more.

And I do truly believe some of them believe their own publicity and think they're bullet proof.

Either that or they're complete idiots !!

I take your point * Charleygirl* but some of these boys/men are paid hundreds of thousands per match . They could ( if they weren't busy blowing it on wine, women and song) accumulate millions of pounds in their short careers. Where does it stop I wonder?

Charleygirl, so what if footballers only have a short shelf life in the sport. Nothing justifies corruption, and they can always do another job afterwards just like anyone else. Most of the football training academies educate their players for a career after football. People like Allardyce are just plain greedy.

NanaandGrampy I agree that footballers are paid an obscene amount of money but in fairness to them many have a short shelf life re football. I am well aware that many squander the dosh that they earn but there is little we can do about that.

Allardyce is claiming, 'Entrapment has won.'

Doesn't that mean, 'Bugger! I got caught?'

I've never idolized anyone, it's just not something I do. I admire people's achievements, but realise that we aren't infallible and are capable of doing some awful things.

High profile people getting caught!

Donald Trump - the Americans have been told the truth about him and they are still going to vote for him

Now that the media manufactures 'respect' it no longer seems something that people are bothered about, and money is all.

There is nothing that money can buy, to replace your self respect when it is gone, but surrounded by sychophants and agents these very rich or famous people quickly lose their bearings. Sad really.

Isn't it strange? Some are corruptible and others value their conscience and other people over everything else. Jane Austen said, 'One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other.” In this case, one half of the world cannot understand the morals of the other.

I think it has always happened...'there is nothing new under the sun' but so much easier now to be found out.

Power corrupts. Fact of life. Sad but one might as well face up to it. I don't find these revelations depressing; I'm impressed that power doesn't corrupt more people. Maybe it does and we just don't hear about them.

They and many other greedy people in our very unequal society have huge advantages/education/fabulous housing/cars/holidays/lawyers but no morality. They never seem to pay for their misdemeanors.

is it because people do not have common sense or discretion any more? It seems to be a lost art to keep your bits in your pants and your mouth closed these days or, do people thrive of notoriety and scandal?

More like grubby white collar.

In the example I told above it was dismissed,almost excused, as being "only a white collar crime" as though that made it ok

Early in my career I worked for a major manufacturing company, as I had worked there all my working life up to that point as an apprentice etc, I never appreciate the power the company had over it's suppliers. Just after we were married, I was offered a bribe to award a contract, I took me a while to realise what was being said and that it was a bribe, I was quite shocked as I was a small cog at that time. No, I did not take it, even though at the time it would have helped a lot. it was only later, when I joined another company that I realised just how big those contracts were.
The Masons were also a powerful force within the company, I was invited to join and it was clear that if I wished to progress, I should. I left soon after that.

I've just read that the TV rights for football are £7.2 BILLION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am just wondering what other organisations (ones that we could all benefit from) could do with that sort of money.

The whole thing stinks and just reiterates my thoughts about the game (other than kids/adults kicking a ball about in a friendly way)

Not at all shocked or surprised just sad. Power really does corrupt, and as kitty said why are they so naive to think they will get away with it? Someone will always " rat" on them.
A close neighbour of ours, I used to socialise a lot with his wife, went to prison for awarding contracts for money, now that was a shock. She was very loyal but the effect on their children was very damaging and far reaching.

A combination of greed and the Eleventh Commandment (thou shalt not be found out) and, no, it is not just men, look at the whole farce of M.Ps' expenses.
The wrongdoers then get massive publicity on the media and what "lesser mortals" (like us) might see as corruption, cheating and theft, is dismissed as "an error of judgement".
How on earth can parents today attempt to provide any sort of moral compass for young people when these examples are set before them?

I don't think I was shocked as much as incredulous!! 2 months into the job and he's pulling a stunt like this?

Whatever happened to 'for the love of the game' ?

I personally think that the indecent sums of money we are paying footballers and the entourage surrounding them is fuelling this type of thing. They're footballers not discovering a cure for cancer !!

It doesn't shock me sadly - I expect it- money is very corrosive.

Yes it is all about money, power, greed and trust, but it is in all walks of life, not just football.

It does seem to be men, but I suspect that is because it is men in those positions atm.

I agree Hilda, sport seems rife with corruption they are so greedy.

It's all money, money, money, and it's not as if Big Sam doesn't have enough! If I had the wealth of these people I would be quite content.