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In pursuit of that elusive thing ...happiness !

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NanaandGrampy Sun 14-Aug-16 13:57:42

Just read a thread about escaping and a great deal of the posters mention their unhappiness in one way or another and it got me thinking.

What is happiness? Who has it? How did they get it? Is it a myth?

Personally , I'm happy . I'm comfortable with who I am , my relationship is in a comfortable place that works for us both, my family are fine ( although to say that is to maybe tempt fate!!]

BUT I am, and always have been a glass half full kind of girl. I'm easy going lazy and to be honest to be discontented takes far too much effort smile.

I'm not envious of anyone . I achieved my career goals and now I'm happy to be retired.

Could I put my finger on any one thing that makes me happy? Probably not but I think it might have something to do with living the life I love and loving the life I live.

Does anyone KNOW the meaning of happiness and can you share it please smile

wot Tue 16-Aug-16 21:54:40

True, I would just like him to show an ounce of affection sometimes and talk to me without constantly criticising what I say. He does give me a reason to live because I need somebody to look after. (Or I would surround myself in cats and dogs!)

Ana Tue 16-Aug-16 21:47:23

At least you've still got your partner, wot, even if he isn't everything you'd wish for! hmm

wot Tue 16-Aug-16 21:42:25

How can a person be happy/contented often if they are lonely? Loneliness seems to spoil everything.

Synonymous Tue 16-Aug-16 18:08:24

I am a glass half full person and try to look at life in that way even when life does throw us some wobblies. I think as others have already said that the important thing is to be thankful for all the little things and if you do that habitually it changes your perspective on everything. We should not be expecting to be blown away by joy on a daily or regular basis but whenever it happens it is a real blessing to be savoured.
We need to be careful not to think that everyone else is happier than we are. When we look at others we see what they present for the world to see and so we don't see anything that is hidden within them but on the other hand we know all our own innermost thoughts and feelings. Why we persist in comparing our inner feelings to the presented facades of others really does beat me - but we do! confused sad

cheerfullizzy Tue 16-Aug-16 17:59:21

ROCKGRAN..what a beautiful way to sum things up...simply lovely!flowers

cheerfullizzy Tue 16-Aug-16 17:55:51

TWICE AS NICE...you are to be admired!!! I for one admire you....goodness...you've been through more than most could bare..
& now look at you....fantastic! what an inspiration to us all....
Thank you for sharing this and giving us all hope that tough times can be overcome...best wishes for whatever you do!..xx flowers

Stansgran Tue 16-Aug-16 12:09:42

I am a whinge and a moaner and have a glass half empty for no good reason whatsoever. My DF died in my teens and it was like a rug pulled from under my feet. My DM just froze in time ,nothing changed and I lived at home until I married six years later. The first day going back to university after his death on the top deck of the bus there was a fantastic sunrise which made me so happy it was so glorious .- Liverpool had wonderful sunrises and sunsets in those days. I think possibly pollution. I decided that I had to see something beautiful every day. It does help and I'm sorry if it sounds a bit soppy but today I nearly did a happy dance because two goldfinches seem to be at home in my lilac tree but I had to keep quiet not to frighten them away.

gettingonabit Tue 16-Aug-16 11:03:16

There seems to be too much pressure to be happy these days imho.

Let's face it, many if not most of us would "fail" that happiness checklist posted upthread. Most of us have experienced loss of loved ones, illness, betrayal in personal relationships, poverty, unemployment, being taken for granted. Add into that the pressure of putting others' "happiness" before our own and it's a bloody wonder anyone feels happy at all!

I think the key to it must be personality, really. Some are just more "come day, go day" than others. I wish I had a sunnier personality. But I haven't, and along with many others struggle to offset guilt with contentment.

henetha Tue 16-Aug-16 10:44:09

I rarely these days get that feeling of joy, of the heart being uplifted, that I would define as happiness. Too many sad things have happened and there are people I miss badly.
But I do aim at a level of feeling content, and achieve it lots of the time. It may sound trite, but I do honestly try to count my blessings.

pensionpat Tue 16-Aug-16 09:01:54

I agree with cheerfullizzy. Although I don't often practice it! Remember the emergency drill on a plane. If the oxygen masks drop down, put your own on first so that you can then help others.

TwiceAsNice Tue 16-Aug-16 08:26:16

I have had awful things happen in my life. The death of my son, estrangement from my parents, a brother who is indifferent and who I see rarely, a controlling and violent husband ( now divorced and SO happy about that) and to a lesser extent being unhappy in a very stressful job. However I have done my best to see things in the "glass half full mode" and seem to have been able to manage to be resilient enough to come through it all. I do believe my faith has helped me immensely and the love of my children and wonderful best friend. I have always been outgoing and had a lot of friends. We only have one life and and we have to try and make the most of it. At present I have just retired have some long term health problems but have moved near my children and grandchildren and that is a great gift. I wish sometimes I had made better decisions sooner but you cannot change the past but the future is still here . I find this site a good place to be and am interested in how others see things. I wish you all happiness in your lives especially those who at the moment, are in a dark place.

LullyDully Tue 16-Aug-16 08:00:58

Not a Werthers Original, you can't chew them like a good old toffee.grin

M0nica Tue 16-Aug-16 07:28:10

I do not think that feeling is programmed into women. I think it is the result of childhood conditioning.

I grew up with a mother and grandmother who both lived feminism. although my mother didn't always realise it, but it was instinctive in her because of her own upbringing. The idea that a girl is only 'good' if she is subservient to others, particularly men, was completely absent from my upbringing and I am so fervently grateful for this.

Rapunzel100 Mon 15-Aug-16 23:33:48

Happiness for me is peace of mind. It means all is well.

gettingonabit Mon 15-Aug-16 23:00:21

Yes, ethel I feel that guilt too!

morethan2 Mon 15-Aug-16 21:58:55

Yes Ethel it's the same feeling I get if I sit and do nothing. I always think I should be busy doing somthing. Do you think it a female trait that most of us are guilty of?

BlueBelle Mon 15-Aug-16 21:53:55

Perhaps happiness is just a werthers original after all

etheltbags1 Mon 15-Aug-16 21:17:49

does anyone ever feel like I do, guilty if you are happy, thinking you should be doing this that and the other to please others.

Anneishere Mon 15-Aug-16 20:47:09

Just another human emotion - and no one can experience total happiness I believe you have to experience unhappiness to experience happiness - yin yan? Good or evil/ warm or cold / love or hate / generous or greedy - Yes happiness I believe is a kind of peace of mind / a contentment/ love - brewcupcake

rockgran Mon 15-Aug-16 19:11:47

Don't know if anyone quoted this yet but it helps me.

"Happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you; but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder."

Author: Henry Thorea

cheerfullizzy Mon 15-Aug-16 18:57:56

getting on a bit....truly hope you find your own positive way to be free of feeling responsible for everyone & having to do the right thing...which is just like i've often felt...but a recent tough period has made me realise...we owe it to ourselves to treat ourselves with the same respect & kindness with which we treat others..as women..we seem conditioned to put our own needs & 'happiness' at the back of the queue...& in doing so...end up prone to all sorts of negativity...depression...down in the dumps momments & the like....
I've 'empowered' myself by confronting what makes me down...Enough is enough...break the cycle...NUTURE YOURSELF FOR ONCE..DO WHAT 'MAKES' YOU HAPPY.....why shouldn't we?...after all...we're always applying the same to others..it's high time we practiced what we preach..so to speak...flowerssmile

1974cookie Mon 15-Aug-16 18:25:04

A long while ago, I met a delightful old Lady who I would describe as a Simple Lady. ( Please do not be offended by my description, please read on )
When I said this, what I was trying to portray was that this Lady was Country born and bred. Her life was not complicated by the things that Town and City dwellers experience. Her lifestyle, with her Husband was very simple and uncomplicated.
She and her Husband had no dreams of winning the Lottery. They had no dreams of 'upgrading' their lifestyle. In short, they were happy living their life simply in a cottage on a farm.
Life was hard, but they were happy in their own way. As I saw it, they were happy together.
For me, they defined happiness.
I don't know about you, whoever is reading this but:
I envy them.

Elysium Mon 15-Aug-16 17:09:37

Gagagran - I couldn't have put it better, fleeting moments, rushes of small happy moments. The smallest things, the simplest things but I have always thought I was a glass half full type, till I really examined my situation. Life does seem a real struggle financially and emotionally, but there is an inner drive that seems to push us on, if not for ourselves, but maybe for others. Happiness gained by seeing others happy and having a purpose in life. It reminds me of the story of Candide by Voltaire, he strives to find happiness and travels through all the lands to search for his true love, his happiness, only to discover, real happiness was to be found in his own back yard. (Roughly translated) ha!

Helmsley444 Mon 15-Aug-16 16:55:37

I no its not the same Darmacat but i lost my only sister a little while ago and before that my beloved mum.I have two grown up sons ,and i couldnt bear the loss of either.Its true what they say though, they do live on, in your heart, and no one can evertake away the beautiful times you spent together. Its so hard and so sad but i wish you and your husband peace and many a new joy to come ?

annifrance Mon 15-Aug-16 16:03:26

Dharmacat. so sorry for your loss. None of us who have not experienced the worst possible - the loss of a child - could ever come close to imagining what it must be like. My brain won't even take me there. I know two people to whom this has happened in my immediate friendships, and I have joyfully seen them laugh and be happy again. I wish you well. This is not a race and one day you will join the mainstream of life again.