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This new drug to prevent those who have unprotected sex from getting the HIV virus.

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jinglbellsfrocks Wed 03-Aug-16 13:29:47

I feel so angry about the ruling that the NHS has been told by the High Court to cough up for this.

The NHS should be for ill people, not to support anyone's un-self-disciplined lifestyle.

angry

mumofmadboys Sun 07-Aug-16 18:33:02

Free contraception is one of the excellent things the NHS has done. To lose that would be a hugely retrograde step.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 18:34:45

Would it? The well off could pay. We never used the NHS to get contraception. We paid. We weren't well off, by a long way.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 18:35:51

And I only ended up with three kids. Surprisingly. smile

Linsco56 Sun 07-Aug-16 18:48:50

I wish we could "bring on the drug to prevent lung cancer" and many, many other drugs to combat/prevent numerous debilitating illnesses. I think most people with any sense of compassion would "care about kids struggling to breathe" but how does that correlate with the funding of a drug to prevent HIV. Are they mutually exclusive?

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 19:19:13

You actually want, and would be happy to finance, a drug to allow smokers free rein to smoke as much as they like?

Bit odd that.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 19:21:15

No. Of course they are not mutually exclusive. The whole nation knows about the bottomless pit that is the NHS. hmm

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Linsco56 Sun 07-Aug-16 19:55:02

jbf you were the one who said "bring on the drug to prevent lung cancer" and I stated "I wish we could". There is many a person today suffering from the effects of passive smoking. I don't think anyone should be overly judgemental regarding the ill health of others. Nothing odd about it.

I am well aware the NHS is not a bottomless pit but who gives anyone the right to prioritise which section of society takes priority.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 19:57:20

Read all of the post. The bit about smokers.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 19:59:22

I'm not being "judgemental". Well, perhaps about fag smokers.

Linsco56 Sun 07-Aug-16 20:04:20

and of course "anyone's un-self disciplined lifestyle"

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 20:07:42

Oh yes. That too.

Pleasure before need seems to be the order of the day.

GandTea Sun 07-Aug-16 20:26:18

"I am well aware the NHS is not a bottomless pit but who gives anyone the right to prioritise which section of society takes priority"

You may not consider that anyone has the "right" but in the real world, someone somewhere has to, and they will never please everyone.

Lazigirl Sun 07-Aug-16 20:26:38

"He who is without sin" and all that...........hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 20:32:16

Oh for God's sake. hmm

(not you GandT)

I can't be bothered with some of this stuff.

Jalima Sun 07-Aug-16 20:44:55

I am so thick I only realised the other day what your name was SueDonim grin
To be fair, I was pronouncing it wrongly, putting the emphasis on the middle syllable!!

Linsco56 Sun 07-Aug-16 20:51:38

The NHS governing body, including its sub-committees and the clinical commissioning executive make the decisions as to how healthcare resources are best used. So no one individual has that right or responsibility.

SueDonim Sun 07-Aug-16 20:51:46

Jalima grin

durhamjen Sun 07-Aug-16 20:52:27

nhsfunding.info/underfunded/key-funding-facts/10-years-of-record-low-funding-rises/

NHS is not a bottomless pit, but it is not being financed as much as it should be.
If it was, maybe this problem would be solved.

nhsfunding.info/sign-in-support/#

Jalima Sun 07-Aug-16 20:53:53

I do get there in the end grin Soo*Donn*Imm

GandTea Sun 07-Aug-16 21:20:26

However much money we put into the NHS, there will always be some drug or procedure that is beyond their budget, I do however a free that it is currently underfunded.
I thought it was pretty obvious that no single individual makes financial decisions in the NHS, hardly thought it needed saying.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 23:05:55

"Blue sky, warm sun. Birdsong, wind whispers. Softly waving grass, long enough to hide all sins and pleasures. A day to welcome sleep. And love.

Cool hands on warm bodies. Shivers, tremblings. Sweet breath on faces, hands on thighs and breasts, sweeter still.

The day cools. The watchful sun turns his face.

In the growing dusk, Karen and Amy walk home. Together."

I wrote that a couple of years back. In the Writers Room forum on Gransnet.

Yeah. Definitely homophobic, me.

hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 07-Aug-16 23:06:16

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