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A vote for remain could lead to war

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obieone Thu 23-Jun-16 09:55:36

within the next 3-5 years. My opinion. I haven't written this lightly.

EU has destabilised Europe by their immigration policy. Either by incompetence or some wanting it destabilised.

If their policy continues and we remain in the EU, I think war will break out. Within 5 years, if not 3.

We really need to vote Leave for all our sakes.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 23-Jun-16 18:27:41

Nothing wrong with being different. You go for it lady. smile

Pathetic in my book, introducing a poster's previous name. How do you know the reason why she is not known by that now? It could be personal.

obieone Thu 23-Jun-16 18:24:48

hmm.
I suppose I dont like it, but all my life I have been a little bit different so accept what is thrown at me I suppose.
I still haven't decided after all this time, if that is the best way to be or not.

Thnaks for asking.

POGS Thu 23-Jun-16 18:17:44

Obieone

Going off topic a tad. I will not PM you to ask but I have noted at times there have been a certain few posters who have found amusement by making connections to yourself and a previous posters Username and I note this has happened again on this thread.

Have you ever made a personal statement regarding this occurrence accepting the situation ,in which case it is banter or does it upset you?

durhamjen Thu 23-Jun-16 17:58:32

Maggie, I saw someone complain that they are fixing it by making us use pencils, which can be rubbed out.
Obviously someone who has never voted before!

"A man has been arrested after a threatening message – which included knife and gun emojis – was sent to an MP just days after the murder of Jo Cox.

The comment was posted on Craig Mackinlay’s Facebook page underneath a post supporting the campaign to leave the EU. Mackinlay was voted in as Conservative MP for South Thanet in the 2015 elections, beating Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

The Facebook comment read: “Another MP that needs ...” followed by a picture of a gun, knife and two smiley faces."

The police have done their job here. It's not war, it's just nasty threatening people.

obieone Thu 23-Jun-16 17:55:48

No, as I definitely think Leave anyway.

But I would take that into consideration if I was wobbling.

Lack of peace is a very heavy price to pay, if you are unsure what to vote.

phoenix Thu 23-Jun-16 17:53:33

This makes me want to

granjura Thu 23-Jun-16 17:44:52

Oh I get you now- you've voted OUT in order to pacify the ultra right wing like EDL, Britain First and the NF- and the extremes of UKIP. Makes more sense now.

obieone Thu 23-Jun-16 17:38:08

I dont think it will calm the right wing in Europe though.

obieone Thu 23-Jun-16 17:36:58

In a way, it has been good that so many of the polls are so even.
It might help dispel some trouble after today if the vote is remain.

obieone Thu 23-Jun-16 17:35:05

I am not surprised at all Maggiemaybe. Hence my concern and the thread.

granjura Thu 23-Jun-16 17:20:21

Maggie- the enemy within is often a lot more dangerous than the 'supposed' enemy without sad

Anniebach Thu 23-Jun-16 17:03:39

Gove may Resign ? Oh please let the in vote win

Maggiemaybe Thu 23-Jun-16 17:01:09

That would be a result, durhamjen, but I don't think he'll keep his word, unfortunately.

As for nutters using anger, obieone, check out the outpouring of hate on Facebook right now from the nutters who are promising we'll have riots if the vote doesn't go their way (leave), because it'll all have been a fix apparently if that happens. Oh, and they'll be on the front line teaching us all a lesson. I'm absolutely gobsmacked at the company some of my friends are now happy to keep.

obieone Thu 23-Jun-16 16:48:53

Neither Jalima.

Far right/neo Nazi groups against whoever they are angry against if they haven't been appeased.
And whichever nutters try to use that anger for their own ends.

durhamjen Thu 23-Jun-16 16:31:29

Nevermind, obieone. Soontobe over. Just another few hours.

Michael Gove, justice secretary, has said if remain win he might resign from government. I know lots of better reasons to vote remain, but that will do for one.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 16:31:25

Day zero!!!!

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 16:30:53

I think that whatever the vote is on Friday it will say zero
Leave -God only knows what's in front of us
Remain - all politicians must pull themselves together and understand what the electorate were saying and make sure they act on it.

Jalima Thu 23-Jun-16 16:22:29

Do you mean a united Europe against somewhere else?
or between countries in Europe?

confused

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 23-Jun-16 15:02:19

I agree, both about civil unrest and how bad the politicians on both sides have handled the process. It's been like an episode of House of Cards sometimes (the BBC version). Apprehensive about the fallout.

granjura Thu 23-Jun-16 15:00:43

agreed, a nasty can of worms has been opened- and pushing them back and closing the lid is going to be almost impossible.

And it is not the EU migrants I'd fear either.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 14:46:08

morethan I am worried about this Pandora's box. None of it will be easy to put away. Our politicians have handled this so badly and have encouraged all the animosity and naked nationalism. I hope they don't live to regret it.

morethan2 Thu 23-Jun-16 14:40:05

In or out if there was a war that involved Europe it's a little naive to think we wouldn't be involve, of course we would. simple because it would affect us too. I agree with Anya re civil unrest but I've made no secret of that. I think pockets of civil unrest is probably a foregone conclusion in lots of European countries and there's not a lot we can do about it now. The whole situation has been mishandled by all these very thick as pig shit silly politicians

Jane10 Thu 23-Jun-16 13:27:09

It certainly feels like war on Gransnet!

Elegran Thu 23-Jun-16 13:25:57

It was not the presence of any of these groups that led to war, it was other factors entirely.

The Aryan connection (if that is what you meant, and I still hope it wasn't) is to the assumption of white supremacy (particularly the supremacy of the blond blue-eyed pure-blooded germanic type).

THAT is what led the "master race" to hound, revile, arrest, sterilize, imprison, and eventually apply the "final solution" of the gas chambers to anyone who didn't fit that stereotype - the disabled, the mentally ill, the religiously unusual, the slow to learn, Gypsies, Jews, anyone different.

Today we would call it racism or genocide. The attitude of hatred whipped up towards them caused unbelievable acts to be carried out.

If anyone whips up hatred toward any group of society, then the blamed for any bloodshed that ensues is down to THEM not the group they have demonised.

Alea Thu 23-Jun-16 13:00:02

googled it. I think it was Aryan

About 8 letters I think you said?

Ditto what everybody else has said about causes of WWII, loads of bollocks, scaremongering etc etc etc.