Feeling sorry for men

TizLiz you're not Howard and Hilda then

etheltbags

I really hate it when men are walking around M&S lingerie department with their wives, closing inspecting everything and giving their approval or disapproval.

LOL

I like men really, I just coud'nt manage a whole one.

I have no problem with the opinion that not having separate lives could be difficult when one dies, but to say that you could not abide it, indicates that you find it disgusting and that is objectionable.

Yes, I am sure either one of us would be devastated when we are parted, but I would expect no less after over 50 years of love for each other. Many of our interests that we share could continue alone, we are heavily involved with the U3A in three villages and never have enough days in the week to do everything we want to. We do go out separately several time a week. My Ukulele night is just me, but Mrs P comes to most of our gigs and enjoys being part of it.

The danger of being 'joined at the hip' as I said, is that when one dies (or divorce happens) then the one left is so lonely, if you have friends and a life of your own then you can get on and start again. I have seen many couples whom I could not imagine coping alone. Equally I see many who have a balanced life, still, friends with their partners but who go out with others and have hobbies. What can be wrong with that.
Im speaking from experience, my late husband and I had separate jobs, hobbies and friends and when he died, although I missed him, I made a new life very quickly.

Didn't cost me any shoes (yet) but I was sitting outside the changing room in Matalan, and I was asked my opinion (luckily I could read her mind and knew the right answers, yes, no,no)

I think you would probably say that my OH and I are joined at the hip. I don't have my own car, we share one. I don't really have any close friends and I am not one for going out much prefer peace and quiet at home. We work together. But we don't have matching jumpers

I am going to buy a pair of dance shoes this afternoon, Mrs P wants to come with me, and I will enjoy her company. Might cost me a pair of ladies dance shoes, but I'll risk that.

What annoys me is when people criticise others for being "joined at the hip". What business is it of anyone else other than the couple involved. They are not preaching their lifestyle or doing any harm what so ever. My wife and i share a large part of our lives together, for us, that's why we married each other and the way we wish to spend our days together. our choice, no on else's business.

"the man gets to see the kids once a while" mostly by choice ethelbags1 and often because they have a new partner and may even start a new family. Don't feel sorry for them. The best men insist on staying in contact with their children no matter what happens, those who don't put their own needs before their children's.

I would never dream of taking my partner with me shopping unless it was a window shopping expedition and maybe one specific purchase only. After that maybe a coffee and a stroll back to the car.

I find the adverts where they do this role reversal on women perving on men to be pathetic. No woman would lower herself to be like that.

They are taking the piss out of women not men here and I find it to be an insult to intelligence. I mean... who drinks Coke anyways

How we perceive equality is in the mind of the individual. Some of us are more equal than others..lol

Equality may have gone too far but men think differently to us girls. I never took my late husband shopping-why should I, I paid for my own clothes!
I cant abide couple who are 'joined at the hip'.

The only thing I must admit to feeling sorry for men is when there is a divorce and the woman gets the house, a good allowance and the man gets to see the kids once a while.
I realise that there are many divorcing couples who are not like this but I just feel sorry for the men who lose so much.

Other than that we women are superior in every way, what we lose in the muscles we gain in the brain powers. Women rule!!!

Have to disagree Jane I don't think we do always care and cater for their needs better than they do for us. Maybe I've got the one in a million but generally Grampy does a good job of looking after me .

He knows what I need when I'm ill( leave me alone to die please ) he puts me first 99 times out of a 100 and I know that. He knows EXACTLY how I think.

Maybe that's 40 years of marriage. Maybe I feel that way because I'm 'in charge' well someone has to be and I'm the decisive, quick thinking one. There are days when he couldn't make a decision to save his life...and sometimes that's good , other times less so.

I can't be alone in thinking they aren't 'clueless creatures' ?

ps I could unblock my own sink if I have to - I just don't have to

janeayres

Well I love shopping but my DH doesn't, except for Aldi, Lidle, Screwfix or B&Q.

SO WHAT? He loves watching Cricket, Rugby, Snooker, etc. He will listen to a bunch of boring men talking endlessly about the colour of away shirts, their playing styles, their managers etc, until the crack of dawn. The papers and the TV are crammed with information about sport. Imagine the news ending everyday with a report about hair,shoe styles and clothes. It would be laughable. I think the world we live in is still dominated by men.
We care for them and cater for their needs much better than the other way around. My DH hasn't got a clue about what I like to eat or how I think really. He stands at the bedroom door if I am ill, saying 'would you like to eat something? I feel like saying FFS No ! I want you to starve me to death. They are clueless creatures but we need them to fix the the blocked sink........so they think.
Also they are good for a great 'you know what'
He is lying beside me now yawning and eyeing me up........help lol

Have to agree with Trisher. I hate shopping too, and it irritates the bejasus out of me when people imply that all women love it.
And even when I do go it's very rarely with dh - unless it's to the garden centre and I need him to lug bags of compost about.
In any case, he has a habit of wandering off and disappearing in shops, which is another reason to go alone. It was years ago, just before Hallowe'en, when we happened to go to the garden centre for an old fashioned besom broom (among other things) for sweeping leaves off the lawn.

So dh wandered off, as usual, and there was I left fuming at the checkout, clutching my besom broom, when I noticed a little kid looking anxiously at me and half hiding behind her mother. 'Mummy,' she whispered, just loud enough for me to hear, 'is she a witch?' ??

I certainly don't think "the pendulum has swung too much the other way". Not when women continue to be under-represented in almost every area of life, except those areas where they would prefer not to be represented - stalking, rape, domestic violence/murder.

Spot on sweethearts.

Too right sister!

I don't feel sorry for men. How has the pendulum swung the other way? How many men are killed by their female partners every week? How many women are in Parliament, in banking, in top jobs ? I think that a lack of respect for women is still prevalent.
I was reminded of it only last week. I went around inspecting some Environment Agency assets with a bunch of Men. I was the only woman and I am well qualified to talk about sustainable Water Management. My husband came with me. It was like I was invisible. Even though my husband knows less than me, it was to him they turned. It is called mansplaining.
The PrimeMinister did it fairly recently, to a woman, in Parliament when he told a colleague ' calm down dear' Outrageous....
I still think we have along way to go.
I don't want to be better or worse than men, I want to be considered as different but treated with equal respect.
I like to shop alone, by the way.

I don't feel sorry for men at all. Some of my best friends are men. In fact I get on very well with men and enjoy their conversation and company (unless it turns to golf

Nothing has gone too much 'the other way'

GandTea Tue 21-Jun-16 12:18:00

My late husband drove and I don't so we shopped together for things we were both interested in e.g. plants or furniture and he went to the pub while I went in clothes shops. He went on his own for the main food shop (whilst I was doing housework) and we went to together for nice bits at the deli or farmers market or M&S food. I've never gone clothes shopping with someone else (except when my children were small and had to be with me). I don't understand why women need to have girlfriends with them to shop.

Tizliz, "why should I lower my standards" so that you are the same a most women of course -- that is also a joke --- next.

I hate shopping but OH does come with me if I am forced to buy something. We went into Inverness yesterday but only got as far as the curtain shop, then went to the garden centre. The vouchers I have will have to wait. This was my decision.

Could really upset people by saying I don't want equality. Why should I lower my standards? This is a JOKE