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When is a flat not a flat?

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meemaa Tue 17-May-16 11:29:05

When it's an apartment apparently. There is a three bed council flat up the road from us just gone on the market and marketed as an 'apartment'. I've always thought apartments were either American or one storey dwellings that are so fancy they appear in interiors magazines etc. But for a regular flat? no!

trisher Wed 18-May-16 12:17:10

The blocks around here are known as apartments, but the Victorian terraced properties with one property upstairs and one down, are still known as Tyneside Flats (Tyneside apartments would just be weird!!!)

vampirequeen Wed 18-May-16 11:24:30

Go and live on a sink estate then.

Is that meant to be nasty or am I misinterpreting it as it's only text and I can't use intonation or body language to gauge intention?

leeds22 Wed 18-May-16 11:14:32

Just worked it out. We live in a quasi semi, Queen Anne period peasant's cottage, with a bijoux walled garden. lol

sarahc446655 Wed 18-May-16 11:10:01

Go and live on a sink estate then.

vampirequeen Wed 18-May-16 10:32:36

In this town there are lots of retirement properties. The social housing blocks are flats whilst the privately owned are apartments. I agree with Rosina...it's the Hyacinth Bucket effect grin. A lot of the social housing flats are bigger than the privately owned apartments.

granjan Wed 18-May-16 10:26:48

The vast majority of new flats being built these days,
seem to be called luxury apartments! Hmmm!!

Rosina Wed 18-May-16 10:19:06

I always understood that a maisonette was literally 'a small house'; at one point I lived in a property in a block, and my home had a front door onto the street (as opposed to inside a communal area) and was two story. However, having been involved in the selling of what I would consider a purpose built flat recently it seems that even a one story property, in a block, is called a maisonette if it has a front door opening directly onto the street. A flat is within a block with an 'inside' front door leading from a communal area. An apartment is a flat trying to sound grand - the 'Hyacinth Bucket' effect!

Angela1961 Wed 18-May-16 10:13:47

We have a row of terraced houses opposite us. One is on the market as a 2 bed cottage !

NonnaW Wed 18-May-16 09:35:43

When the ex and I first got married we rented a small bungalow, which was rather grandly referred to by our landlady as the 'garden flat'.

notanan Tue 17-May-16 22:10:02

Well i lived in a bedsitter when I first left home. Would that be an apartment now?

It would be a "studio apartment" and would probably be at least twice the size of most of the studios on the market nowadays, in fact it has probably been redeveloped/divided up into 3 executive capsule living modern studio apartments!

MargaretX Tue 17-May-16 22:01:47

Well i lived in a bedsitter when I first left home. Would that be an apartment now?
It looks very nice merlotgran

merlotgran Tue 17-May-16 18:42:14

Wish I knew what to call our granny pad. DH keeps calling it a flat even if I'm glaring at him and stamping on his toes because it isn't!. We converted a building that had once been our catering/production kitchen so it's always been know as The Kitchen.

I toyed with the idea of something grand like Garden Lodge as it sits in a large cottage garden but DH thinks Nettle Cabin would be more appropriate. angry

We still refer to our old home at the other end of the garden as The Bungalow.

Our postman just calls it The Annexe. hmm

He's right really.

notanan Tue 17-May-16 17:58:49

I think in England an apartment has to be completely self contained - it's own seperate services (gas, water, heat, electric - each billed separately to individual apartments)

But a flat has to be a flat and not an apartment if it shares some services. Like if you converted a house into two "flats" that use the same boiler or something, they cannot be "apartments"

However I think it's different in america because NY style "apartments" often have communal services.

I don't know where I plucked all that from, I'm pretty sure I read that from a reliable source somewhere at some point LOL :-D

wot Tue 17-May-16 17:24:26

Vampirequeen, well said!

Katek Tue 17-May-16 17:14:08

We live in a single storey dwelling apparently, aka a bungalow.

ninathenana Tue 17-May-16 16:23:32

granjura A condo is where each person owns their own area with a communal space to the building. An apartment is rented/leased from the buildings free holder.
I didn't know the difference until I Googled.

vampirequeen Tue 17-May-16 15:16:31

One of my neighbours gets very cross with me if I refer to my walled courtyard as just a yard or worse still a back yard. Apparently we don't have such 'common' (her words) things around here.

It's classed as a cottage because it was built for farm labourers. It seems that factory workers lived in houses but farm workers lived in cottages even though they look exactly the same to me lol.

The snobbery in this town amuses but also annoys me. I come from the nearby city and the way some people talk about it, it's a cross between Sodom and Gomorrah grin. It's actually a normal big city with lots of nice bits and a few not so nice bits.

Lona Tue 17-May-16 15:00:27

Well I'm leaving my cottage and probably moving to an apartment because we're dead posh round 'ere.
I'd rather have a flat if they're cheaper though. wink

wot Tue 17-May-16 14:19:26

Very fond of it really even if it is smaller than an apartment?

wot Tue 17-May-16 14:01:52

My house is now a "cottage" I think it is still a hovel or rabbit hutch ??

granjura Tue 17-May-16 14:01:51

Well where live they are all called 'appartements' - so apartment sounds ok to me ;)... In the USA, don't they say 'condo' - that's what my relatives call flats there.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 17-May-16 13:55:48

grin

janeainsworth Tue 17-May-16 13:22:05

It's nothing new.
We bought our first house, a two up two down end-terrace in north Manchester which the estate agent was pleased to describe as a 'quasi-semi'.
Presumably in 1970 they had not yet thought of 'Victorian artisan's cottage' grin

ninathenana Tue 17-May-16 13:17:17

According to the HUH presenter Martin a maisonette is a flat with it's own external door.
I think of apartments as London wearhouse conversions or part of purpose built riverside buildings.
The one that confuses me is as vq says. Calling a small Victorian terrace house a cottage.

tanith Tue 17-May-16 13:05:50

Its flat in the UK and apartment in the USA or Europe at least that's how I see it. Then there is always Maisonette I wonder what the estate agents market that as nowadays.

vampirequeen grin