Personally, no, but I had a friend, when we were leaving school in the early sixties, who wanted to apply to the college of art. She was very talented, but her parents weren't keen and her teachers kept telling her it wouldn't lead to a worthwhile career, so she didn't go in the end. She went to secretarial college instead like the rest of us typewriter fodder. My neice's daughter has an HNC in graphic design, but found it very difficult to find a job where she could use it. She now manages a gym! When I took my eleven plus, I sat a test in painting and drawing at a local grammar school which was also an art school. I did well in this test, but failed my eleven plus because I was so poor at maths and problem solving. I don't know whether, if I had gone, it would have led to any art-related career. A boy I know who went because of his interest in art ended up being an aeronautical engineer. Did you go, BBbevan?