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Worthingpatchworkers Tue 09-Feb-16 09:43:53

Is it just me or do you also dislike being referred to as guys. It's a term which has come over from America but is just being bandied about rather than being used with discretion. Whatever happened to considering appropriate terms for appropriate situations. Madam and Sir for mature clients of your business....they are not 'guys'. Guys is a term for your friends. I even heard one young male member of staff at a cinema refer to customers in a queue as 'you lot'. I was aghast....respect for people you are doing business with.

Wurzelernie Wed 10-Feb-16 12:45:19

I hate it! I am NOT a guy and don't want to be addressed as one. Yet another Americanism that has crept into our language, it can creep out again as soon as it likes. I'm not normally a grumpy old...........

LullyDully Wed 10-Feb-16 12:33:37

Don't like....you guys, ........but realise it is common parlance. I was hearing it a lot at school as I came up to retirement. It's very American.

Jalima Wed 10-Feb-16 12:15:34

DM used to dislike 'OK' but I notice I used it in my post above hmm

Jalima Wed 10-Feb-16 12:13:41

I'm used to 'no worries mate' so 'no problem' seems OK to me! In fact it reminds me of when we did have a problem in France and other French families on the campsite were so helpful and kind and when we tried to thank them they kept saying 'pas de probleme' (with an accent over the middle e of course, can't seem to do it on here).

TerriBull Wed 10-Feb-16 12:05:27

nannalyn53, I think we all have our personal annoyances as far as language is concerned, I don't like the "can I get?" simply because it's stupid way to address a person serving in say a coffee shop and it's not always accompanied by a please either.

I would not take exception to a sales person or waiter saying "no problem", maybe it's not entirely the appropriate response but I find it perfectly polite and that's enough for me.

TerriBull Wed 10-Feb-16 11:46:26

worthingpatchworkers - I think you have made a valid point about being literal with those suffering from autism, although some with that condition manage to disguise it. I do think though "guys" is considered, by a section of the younger generation as an acceptable way to address a group of people, even though that group may include women. Similarly, I and many others will refer to my children sometimes as my kids, I think autistic people would know from the context that the conversation is not referring to baby goats.

I'm not sure I would consider either "kid" or "you guys" lazy language they are just idioms, and the latter is a term favoured by the younger generation. We are all of "our time" and every generation is influenced in different ways as far as speech is concerned. At the moment we have the Australian inflection, Americanisms, not to mention street language that encompasses elements of West Indian and Asian which produces a patios that is sometimes quite hard to follow.

nannalyn53 Wed 10-Feb-16 11:33:15

I don't object to 'you guys' but I do find other expressions irritating. The one that rattles my cage is the ubiquitous 'no problem' as in exchanges such as:
Salesperson: what can I get you?
Me: an Americano please.
Salesperson: no problem.
Why would it be a problem? We're in a coffee shop for god's sake. It's not as if they have to make a massive effort to source it. I've encountered this buying fruit from a fruit stall, ordering meals in restaurants and drinks in a pub and it really, really annoys me.

Teacher11 Wed 10-Feb-16 11:29:31

I use 'you guys' or 'you chaps' but I mean it respectfully as there is often no other polite and lighthearted alternative.

Or perhaps there is? What should I be saying?

Worthingpatchworkers Wed 10-Feb-16 11:21:02

To the comment 'frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn'......I prefer the phrase form the same movie but said my Scarlet.....fiddle de Dee, I'll worry about that tomorrow.'........it works so well.

Worthingpatchworkers Wed 10-Feb-16 11:18:23

I don't fret about it.....I just thought it would be interesting to hear what others thought. So...thank you for your input.

Misslayed Wed 10-Feb-16 11:15:53

I've just realised that one of our friends always addresses the group as 'Hey guys', I haven't really noticed so it can't bother me much!
On the other hand he also says "Can I get" in restaurants instead of "May I have", which really irks me.
My other pet hate is "Yahrite there?" from anybody involved in customer service.

Worthingpatchworkers Wed 10-Feb-16 11:15:45

I have to day I also don't like the term 'kids'........to me, kids are baby goats.... I believe many of these terms are lazy..... Some people just follow the trend rather than thinking for themselves and considering what they are saying...as an example of this.....when making tea or coffee it is never 'the kettle has boiled'......the water has boiled..... I know I appear to be pedantic but....consider how confusing some of the current language use can confuse those who see life 'literally' such as those with autism.
This is not to say I don't accept changes in our language..I am happy to 'Google it' with the best and I also make up my own words....I just don't like lazy language use and I know I am not the only one.

Teetime Wed 10-Feb-16 11:14:18

I've always quite fancied being in charge of a brothel - would have to be very posh, very French and with the air of the Belle Epoch very Lady Marmalade- go on then tear me to shreds! grin

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Feb-16 11:09:58

it's mate that I hate most...

MadMaisie Wed 10-Feb-16 10:54:57

I really don't like this at all but even worse was a former employer who used to refer to us as "you people". That made me see red. It seemed so patronising.

AngelaMCGF Wed 10-Feb-16 10:28:24

I think there is a massive difference between someone using the word you "Guys" and you "Lot". I must admit I use the word you guys a lot and when I do I always mean it in an affectionate way. It just doesn't feel offensive in anyway or American to be honest. If someone called me Madam, I think I would be confused as to what they thought of me?

rubylady Wed 10-Feb-16 02:23:59

I've never heard that term being used round our way. I get called love, darling, or sweetheart off people but never 'guys'.

Nelliemoser Tue 09-Feb-16 23:14:12

I don't dislike the term "you Guys" If you are addressing a group of people in a generally informal setting. "You lot" can be quite friendly as well, it all depends on the context.

Tegan Tue 09-Feb-16 22:10:07

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. The only thing I do have a problem with is people saying 'oh bless' to me as it makes me feel that they think I'm a bit pathetic....

lynnie1 Tue 09-Feb-16 21:49:16

I don't object at all to familiarity , it's rather nice. It's just seems a rather false thing to say. Eta I would also feel uneasy with someone calling me 'madam' This would make me feel 'very' uncomfortable

grannyqueenie Tue 09-Feb-16 21:45:33

Maybe it's just me and I'm the only one who thinks it...but really there are so many other things that really matter in=my life and in the wider world in general that I just can't find it in my heart to fret about someone saying guys as a genetic term and including me in that. Each to their own I guess!

morethan2 Tue 09-Feb-16 21:14:36

Bellasnana???

Jalima Tue 09-Feb-16 20:36:36

I don't really mind (have a little grin to myself) because it is usually the DC's friends who call us that when they greet us with a hug, and I would rather they did that than refer to us as the 'old fuddie duddies' or ignored us.

Not sure how I would feel if a waiter came up to me and my female friends and asked what 'you guys would like to drink' though hmm

Elrel Tue 09-Feb-16 20:25:43

What about us gals? Or, as Stansgran said, dolls?
I've been told by close relatives that calling them 'peeps' is inappropriate. Think I'll try 'you guys' next!

thatbags Tue 09-Feb-16 20:23:03

You guys who object to you guys are far to literal in your approach to life.