I also got called "my dear" on another thread. I felt just the pat on the head was missing and how very patronising it was.
Good Morning Saturday 1st August 2026
What was directly across the road from the school you went to?
This may seem to many like a repeat of the 'internet manners' discussion that was aired recently, but I wanted to revisit the heart of this matter because of recent developments.
I recently raised a question about texting birth announcements on the AIBU forum recently and unwittingly provoked all sorts of reactions, incurring rudeness and insensitivity along the way. I am not posting here to carp about that, but to highlight it as illustrative of a wider problem.
I am relatively new to GN, but as a result of that thread I received several emails from people who are evidently upset about the way some GNetters post. I suspect there are even more who felt the same. Some are newly arrived, but say they have been put off posting full-stop. Some say they are leaving GN because they are genuinely dismayed at the levels of unkindness expressed and what seem to be pointedly negative / aggressive /insensitive comments. Sometimes when people have raised concern on the forums they feel they have been then publicly shot down in flames and it is usually suggested that they are too sensitive. Some people feel that others assume they are right no matter what and that they have an apparent right because they are longer term members.
I am not writing here to 'preach', or 'carp', or 'point the finger' - rather to think of solutions. none of us are saints and we are going to make errors and misread posts at times. Sometimes something is said 'tongue in cheek', but is taken as offensive. These sort of misunderstandings can be checked out and in my experience a PM often does the trick. However, like many who have emailed me, I honestly think some posts are an awful advert for this site and I really understand why others are put off.
Sometimes the problem may be that when a thread becomes very long it is tempting to skip and just add our own view. Sometimes what we discuss is indeed sensitive and emotive and we can find ourselves reacting strongly. I think it is a good idea to at least skim read other posts and to take time to consider views that may differ from our own and also to keep in mind that this is indeed a public forum.
Perhaps the litmus tests are
* would you actually say the same to someone's face?
* would you feel embarrassed if others actually knew who you were?
*would you mind your views being requoted in public?
Well, I have put my head above the parapet. I have done so because I genuinely like GN, but like others who have emailed me, I have been really dismayed at the way some posts develop and feel that at times we don't actually do ourselves any credit. I also think it is truly sad that a significant amount of people are evidently put off taking a full part in discussions.
I also got called "my dear" on another thread. I felt just the pat on the head was missing and how very patronising it was.
There you are loopylou. You obviously hate my way of posting.
That was the most pompous OP I have ever read on this site btw. 
I rest my case.
QED.
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This should have been put under Site Stuff.
Teacher might have read it then.
It's so easy to add "my dear" and then stand back and await incoming. 
Exactly loopylou.
Perhaps it's about time I rested mine too. This is the first time |I ever read the first post of my day that has made me want to de-register.
And that's 'thoughtful posting', is it? 
(that was to pollyparrot, btw)
Do we really have to sit and contemplate our navels for ten minutes before we say anything? We would lose a lot in spontaneity. And it could become very wise, old....and boring.
Banter is cool
Don't go jinglbellsfrocks your banter is the best I've seen on here.
Some of you established posters take yourselves very seriously. Just saying...
Is it half term already?
Imperfect27 - Another popint to add to your litmus test list - if you disagree, attack the argument, not the person. The trouble is, personal slurs are sometimes hard to identify.
Resorting to personal attacks often means the attacker is losing the argument.
I kind of thought the point of Gransnet was so we could let off steam or say things anonymously because we can't say them to perhaps our family or friends? Having said this I am probably guilty of being a bit thoughtless myself (though I try not to be nasty). If it is a controversial subject say like benefits, migrants, religion etc. People will always get heated about those sorts of things.
I have to say what did shock me was some folk who are very opinionated and very 'right' but then you always get that with people. I guess you will never get a large group of people to always agree.
I am certainly guilty of long posts, but it does not bother me if people skip/ don't read them. I write as I think, which is perhaps why my posts are so long.Given the level of upset on this forum, I will perhaps post a bit less and actually take a bit more care with what I write.
I find this place a valuable'sounding board' and I think there are many good people on here that give good advice.
This is a nasty thread already. You can easily see how it creeps in when someone is deliberately being rude and patronising, just to get a reaction and it starts to smack of playground 'banter'
Sorry imperfect I know where you were coming from, even if I don't necessarily agree entirely. I think we all come to know those who are best avoided at all times - except when something is so outrageous it demands a response. Most of us are capable of being quite forthright when prodded. But some people see offence in every little thing.
I shan't go on as it has all been aired before but I understand that newish posters still need to thrash this out to their own satisfaction.
I think you must be ultra sensitive if Gransnet upsets, it is one of the most polite forums I have ever been on.
In answer to OP, I never say on here anything I wouldn't say to someone's face. People do know who I am so I do not hide behind my nickname.
Sometimes not hearing what you want to hear can cause upset but it does not mean people are against you 
Who promotes a relatively new poster to the role of head prefect?
Just wondering 
Isn't it because we are not face to face that we can say things here?- problems with adult children,mothers who don't like us,husbands being difficult,how to wash XYZ and what do you call abc.
There's nothing wrong with banter Anya. It's very understanding of you to patronise the newbies, by the way.
Hey, I've got a plan. Let's see how long you can go without mentioning that you're not a newbie! 
jingl, please don't de-register again! I think of you as the grit in the oyster of Gransnet!
Ok! Sense of humour in recovery.
What's the betting this thread's been deleted by lunchtime?! 
I think we'll have to try harder if we want to get it deleted, jings
Well this has filled a dull morning.
Maggiemaybe I am sorry if you thought I was being rude to you over the use of the word 'nice'. No offence intended.
I think NannaandGrampy makes a valuable point that we don't always know if someone is looking for support or just airing a view. But if in doubt, I just think it is wise to tread carefully.
harrigran, the central point I was trying to communicate is that people have different sensibilities. That doesn't make anyone better or worse - just different. But if we recognise that, I cannot understand why people want to 'sport' with upsetting others.
Jinglebellsfrocks - ha ha, certainly made you jingle this morning. I cannot see that my OP was patronising though- it just told the truth which has been thoroughly confirmed as this post has progressed.
Here's my twopenneth. I have read from the beginning and I thought Anya's first post was simply suggesting we all wait for the inevitable flack to ensue. I thought she was being amusing so it shows how different people take the same thing.
I think PMs can be a good idea. I have passed on useful info that way which I didn't think everyone wanted to hear. I have also supported posters who I felt were being attacked but didn't want to enter the debate.
It is easy to offend someone without meaning to and I have done so but as soon as it is clear that my post has been read in a way I didn't intend I have apologised. IMO apologies are few and far between and would resolve misunderstandings easily.
I have been the victim of people deliberately misunderstanding me and misquoting me and I have asked for an explanation or apology with no response despite said poster having continued on the thread. That is plain rude. I no longer even read the post of one Gn because I don't like the bossy attitude and rudeness and because of the way she has behaved towards me. Just because one has been in a position to tell people what to say do and think does not give them the right to continue to do so on here when they are no longer paid for it! 
I consider myself a newbie in terms of posting, but have been reading posts for a few months. I have enjoyed immensely most of the threads, especially the banter between oldies who have an on-line relationship. With some of my friends I may use stronger banter than others, depending on their personality. It's irony. The problem is with online communication, irony, without non-verbals, can be mistaken for insult. I thought the reference to "my dear" made between Anya, Pollyparrot and Jings was intentionally humorous. Obviously others didn't. So please continue. Actually I have a sense of putting my head above the parapet so I may change my mind if someone replies in a way that I don't like!
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