Woman's Hour

Does anybody else remember "Music While You Work"?
I love the thought of "urban working women" enjoying equality in the workplace while Jenni Murray blasts forth in their chic urban offices.
Surely WH is aimed at people who are to listen to it?
Feminist agenda? No, issues which are relevant to women (and often men) in the 21st century.
No Radio or TV programme can please all of the people all of the time which is why some cunning boffin (I do hope a woman) invented the "off" button.
As for getting women to study engineering I so agree -with it, I mean.
In the meantime Apricot try visualising some fluffy kittens, know your limits!

I agree totaly with the OP. Everything has gone far too 'heavy' where women are concerned these days. It goes for Womans Hour (although that's always been the same, at least for the last forty odd years) and for Gransnet too.

Obviously we need to have threads marking huge occurrences in the world today, but I don't think we need to be complete sober-sides either.

Btw, my passport hasn't got anyone's pictures on it. Just me and a seagull.

And feminism has definitely gone past its best. In fact it did years ago.

I have not the slightest interest in listening to a radio programme or watching a TV programme about "domestic issues". And if Gransnet was dominated by domestic-type threads, I wouldn't bother looking at it.

There are several general interest and light hearted threads, but I would not describe them as "domestic".

jingle That may be your opinion but it is not the opinion of many women (and men). Did you see the recent programme "Britain's Biggest Sexists"? It certainly left me in no doubt that feminism is needed as much today as it ever was.

"Feminism past its best" ??? Germane Greer et ? Tell that to the young women suffering everyday sexism at work. It's great to have a mix of topics on Gransnet, I frequently join in on the style and beauty , house and home issues, they even talk about those things on Woman's Hour as well. Doesn't mean that this is all women are interested in.

Margret Thatcher wasn't a feminist.Love her or hate her,she was one hell of a person.A person male or female,can be what they want to be in today's world.But if a woman wants to be a mother FIRST,that's a very responsible job.A strong ,capable ,confident person doesn't need a group to back her or him.The last thing women need today is insecure fanatics browbeating them into doing things they've no real interest in.

I find watching BBC tv programmes these days quite shocking - some days I get the vapours and need to loosen my stays and get DH to fetch the smelling salts.

I mean, they have men cooking - lots of them!
They even had a man on a sewing programme (and very dishy he was too, if that's not a sexist remark).
I even noticed women students on University Challenge - since when were so many women allowed into universities?
And the BBC allow women to present programmes (other than Woman's Hour).

What is the world coming to?

ps I do like the mix of topics on here, which shows what adaptable, diverse, well-informed people Gransnetters are

But why do they put the programme on in the morning, on a weekday? I would have thought the ones most interested in feminism would be at work.

And they changed to the weekday morning long before the advent of listening on 'catch-up'.

marmark1 Children have a father - when do they come into the picture or is it only women who should expect to give up their studies, careers and other non-domestic interests when they have children?

Describing feminists as "insecure fanatics" is ridiculous and insulting. The fanatics are the men who respond to perfectly reasonable requests that women be treated equally by hurling disgusting abuse and vile threats at them. When Caroline Criado-Perez and Stella Creasey mounted a campaign for women to be represented on our bank notes, they received a deluge of mail threatening them with rape and death. This is reminiscent of the sort of attitudes prevalent in countries like Saudi Arabia and in my view they have no place in modern society.

You seem to be suggesting that women are under-represented in every sphere of public life because they are weak and incapable. I would suggest that if men received threats, abuse and ridicule every time they called for change, they wouldn't be quite so strong and confident either.

Things are a lot better for women now. Even Germaine isn't anywhere like as militant as she was.

sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

to whom it may concern...

But it can be irresistible and very satisfying! smile]

I don't think so! I hate it.

Why is there a need to have a programme just for women? There isn't one called "Men's Hour".
We should be aiming at sharing on equal terms, living in eachother's worlds.
And no I'm not against feminism altogether, eg equal pay for equal work is essential. But I don't think we need to be so strident, women have their own methods of getting what they want without that.
And joining men in the workplace - in my longest job (20+ years) I started as the only woman with 9 men. When I retired their were 6 women and 4 men.

As a working person with Radio 4 as my constant companion I listen to and enjoy WH. So does my husband. Some of the younger guests on WH can be a bit over earnest on their subject, but surely that is to be applauded not derided? If this forum was all about 'domestic issues' I wouldn't be on it. Does this make me an urban working woman? And DH an urban working man?

sarcasm is the lowest form of wit

It takes a very witty person to be successfully sarcastic

Tricia F says that women have their own way of getting what they want. For goodness sake. No need for woman's hour? I think so

What about women working in the countryside?

Rural working women?
We have radios these days too.

I give up,some people will always see them selves as victims.Unless you toughen up,there's no hope.
And for the record,I mostly say person because I think we are all equal.To think otherwise is to lesson yourself.

I thought someone said that this thread was a wind-up?
Obviously sarcasm would be out of place on a serious thread or one where someone was worried about a personal situation.

Why would it be a wind-up? Just because someone suggested it might be, doesn't make it so!

apricot's OP on thread is very funny.

I missed out 'this'. that's a link there.

I'm sticking to the knitting threads