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Cannot believe this bigotry

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Katek Wed 23-Sept-15 14:04:28

It has been announced that Aberdeen is to take 100 Syrian refugees. FB is now full of bigoted, narrow minded vitriol. I'm appalled

Marmark1 Sat 26-Sept-15 09:44:41

Getting back to the subject.
No,it's not just about housing Durhamjen.Its the cultural thing as well.If you invited people into your home,and they lived an entirely different way of life to you.Sooner or later there would be conflict.Thats a fact.

Meersbrook123 Sat 26-Sept-15 10:53:50

Have you seen what Yvette Cooper has to say today about the dark side of FB etc? It's in the Independent newspaper and is frightening. I've just been reading it online. Dreadful language and even death threats. It's unbelievable.

Anniebach Sat 26-Sept-15 12:09:42

Mamark, you are not being asked to have refugees move into your home. I couldn't share a house with my sisters, there would certainly be conflict. People moving into areas and natives of those areas can respect each other's different ways of life , even learn from each other

Stansgran Sat 26-Sept-15 13:09:17

It's about 16 degrees in Aberdeen today. How do the climates differ(sorry if this has been addressed earlier) ?never been to Syria.

rosequartz Sat 26-Sept-15 13:14:03

There was a young man in the news the other day, I think he was from Iran. He has been here for 10 years but is asking to be sent back. He lives in Manchester and can't stand the weather any longer and the people in Manchester are 'rude and violent'.

WilmaKnickersfit Sat 26-Sept-15 13:54:57

marmark that's a face full of patience Reuben's got on there! grin. Why would you think you would be asked to take in a refugee? If any joined your local community, it would be up to you how much contact you had with them. Judging by the response from people saying they could offer a home to refugees, even if there was an initiative to place refugees in other people's homes, there would be enough people who would be willing to help. There will be cultural differences, but that doesn't mean that there will be conflict. Is part of the problem that you live in an area where there are not many people who are not white and British? I am wondering how many people you know who come from a different ethnic background to you. I mean no offence with my questions.

Stansgran Given Syria is a desert country, the climate is not as different as you might think. The main difference is Syria has long hot dry summers. But away from the coast the winters are quite mild with frost, sleet and snow. On average the summers are quite a bit hotter than ours, but the winters can be colder. Our weather is more changeable so I think refugees definitely would find Britain colder and some might miss the warmth of the sun on their bones.

I'm sure many refugees will want to return home if they can at some point. Families will want to reunite.

rosequartz Sat 26-Sept-15 14:12:21

I think the young man I posted about above came here to join his mother, so it would be sad if he left her to go back.
But that's what young people do - want to experience something different.

WilmaKnickersfit Sat 26-Sept-15 14:13:44

I do remember reading about the young man, but not about his circumstances. Sad really.

Marmark1 Sat 26-Sept-15 17:46:07

I'm talking about.Your home= the country.
I know I couldn't take any,we only live in a one bed bungalow.

durhamjen Sat 26-Sept-15 17:50:18

When the Vietnamese boat people came over here, we learnt from their culture and they learnt from ours. Why do some people living here think our culture is so perfect that we cannot learn from others?

durhamjen Sat 26-Sept-15 17:52:39

Marmark, if you are saying your home = the country, you are saying you speak for all of us. Sorry, but you do not speak for many of us. We live in a democracy. We can speak for ourselves. You certainly do not speak for me.

WilmaKnickersfit Sat 26-Sept-15 18:01:33

Marmark sorry, I did misunderstand what you mean. That said, we've had many different cultures in Britain for decades if not centuries, including Syrians, so I don't agree with you at all.

Maggiemaybe Sat 26-Sept-15 18:15:48

I'm sure Marmark is not claiming to speak for everyone, but is speaking for herself.

Anniebach Sat 26-Sept-15 18:27:48

If a child was standing outside our home , cold, wet, frightened , homeless would we turn the child away because we did not share the same culture ? This is we are doing to the refugees , turning our backs on their suffering because we think they may cause us some inconvenience or God forbid cause some houses to be built on a golf course

harrigran Sat 26-Sept-15 18:39:02

With a large number of economic migrants joining the genuine refugees will they be taking away from those that really deserve our help ? The fittest are always going to be at the front of the queue.
No child would be left to their own devices, unaccompanied minors are taken care of.

rosequartz Sat 26-Sept-15 18:45:39

God forbid cause some houses to be built on a golf course

No need at all to build on precious golf courses, or farms, or even Green Belt (although they will keep insisting on doing that!).
(see my post re brownfield sites, unused building sites, empty houses ....)

Marmark1 Sat 26-Sept-15 19:45:29

Durhamjen,Definatly Not speaking for the likes of you.
Incidentally,how many are you all taking?
No,Definatly can see trouble ahead.Cultural differences ,a few,no problem of course.Our family,especially my husbands side,must have someone of every colour creed denomination,without a doubt.Get on very well,and yes learnt some things.

Marmark1 Sat 26-Sept-15 19:51:21

Anniebach,I'm sure few people would turn a child away,I would find room some where.But if that child was accompanied by adults.?
But as I asked.How many are some of you taking.

Marmark1 Sun 27-Sept-15 09:56:40

Strike my comment to Durham.It may offend and that is not my intention.My apologies .No,I speak mainly for the good working class people of this country .Whatever their colour or creed.Of which there are still many believe me.

Anniebach Sun 27-Sept-15 10:10:06

Mamark, children become adults do they not?

durhamjen Sun 27-Sept-15 10:19:33

I thought I was a good working class person, now retired, of this country. I might even have taught your children.
However, I am pleased you have realised what you said. It did offend me, and possibly many others like me. That's why I did not respond yesterday.

Anniebach Sun 27-Sept-15 10:56:44

May I add my name to the list of good hard working people of this country and you do not speak for me Mamark

Ana Sun 27-Sept-15 11:04:05

It depends how you define 'working class', although I note you didn't use that term, Anniebach.

Jane10 Sun 27-Sept-15 11:13:05

Yes Ana I always bristle at that term. The poor old middle classes who've beavered away for generations are just as "hard working" as anyone else but seem to get it in the neck all the time.
I can share people's concern at the likelihood of development of ghettos (despite the good intentions of SWs and charities, people will want to be with others the same), longer queues on the housing list, longer waits for NHS services, larger class sizes, higher taxes (its the middle classes who get hammered every time but are expected not to moan about it) etc etc etc.
I didn't vote Tory but I think DC has got it right in his plans for helping with this crisis. And it is a crisis.

Anniebach Sun 27-Sept-15 11:45:13

Correction to my post

I am a good hard working class person