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Katek Fri 28-Aug-15 08:32:59

I could hardly believe it when I looked at the news on my phone this morning to discover that 70 people had died in the back of the lorry in Austria. It's appalling, how can one human being allow this to happen to another?

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 20:17:37

Done. We will all be fighting over the pathetic number the Tories are letting in!

durhamjen Sat 19-Sept-15 15:59:30

www.ibtimes.co.uk/crucifixion-teenager-saudi-arabia-highlights-britains-business-deals-despots-1520127

Anyone think Saudi should take refugees?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 19-Sept-15 16:09:15

That is truly horrific. Is there a petition? Can't something be done?

MargaretX Sat 19-Sept-15 16:19:11

From Germany,
The refugees are here in our town. It does you good to see that they are real people, there were families at the market and on the bus ( with their pre paid bus tickets)
I was pleased to see them tucking in to good wholesome German bread and rolls and cheese in Stuttgart. At long tables with Germans waiting on them and children drinking milk and beginning to play again.
We have no more accomodation left but there are gymnasiums in schools and colleges and they get beds donated by IKEA and al least the 'rooms' are partitioned for familes.

The EU is not a police state. What can Germany or Britain do if the Hungarians behave so abominally. Of course they condemn it but considering the place, how could police forces from France or Denmark get there to bring order? It is scandalous but not the EU's fault. it is the fault of the Hungarians - a throw back from their communist days.

I said I'd leave this thread and did for a while. I just wanted to report someting positive but no doubt ROSENQUARTZ and POGs will find some fault.
Goodbye again......

durhamjen Sat 19-Sept-15 16:20:15

Yes there is
www.reprieve.org.uk
Couldn't give a direct link as it kept my info on.

durhamjen Sat 19-Sept-15 17:31:30

This man is an MEP. He is responsible for what happens in the EU.

politicalscrapbook.net/2015/09/ukip-mep-blames-syrian-refugees-for-height-of-grass-in-his-constituency/

Hard to believe that some people voted him in.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 19-Sept-15 17:36:57

Yes. I think a throwback to their being a communist state.

Germany is obviously doing a very good job.interesting info MargaretX.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 19-Sept-15 17:40:59

Petition site says "temporarilly unavailable. Will try again in a few minutes dj. You could start a separate thread. Well worth it.

POGS Sat 19-Sept-15 19:16:11

Margaret x

"No doubt Rosenquartz and POGS will find some fault"

How mature.

whitewave Sat 19-Sept-15 19:35:05

Margaret it is good to see the humanitarian assistance so many in Germany are offerong

petra Sat 19-Sept-15 19:41:45

I was speaking to friends in Bulgaria about this quota system for the migrants. They are beyond angry. It's really not fair to send these people to these ex communist countries, the will be treated badly. The Bulgarians were invaded by the Turks (many years ago) they hate anything associated with Muslims. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but it's a fact.

whitewave Sat 19-Sept-15 19:42:31

Bugger!
Are offering. Many in the UK feel the same and are ashamed at this government s stance.

We have according to government figures spent £1bn in the refugee camps confused obviously a complete waste of money as there is little food or water and complete lack of services, and yet we continue to plug the idea that keeping them in the camps is the best thing for them, ask any refugee what he/she thinks - well we know as they are saying it with their feet.

What we are doing or not doing is utterly shameful and I weep for those tinies looking so bewildered and frightened. I wonder what history will have to say about it?

rosequartz Sat 19-Sept-15 19:44:03

I said I'd leave this thread and did for a while. I just wanted to report someting positive but no doubt ROSENQUARTZ and POGs will find some fault

That is un-called for, that is the only fault I will find.

I have been helping Syrian refugees for a lot longer than Germany has.

I my username is NOT ROSENQUARTZ!

POGS Sat 19-Sept-15 19:55:20

rosequartz

At least Margaret x is consistent , it's been said twice in the space of 5 days.

rosequartz Sat 19-Sept-15 20:06:09

Funny really, POGS, as other people have also picked up on things she has said, but not copied them in their reply posts.

Perhaps she doesn't realise that this is how GN can work (or at least I thought that was how it was supposed to work), as otherwise it gets confusing who or what you are replying to.

It was heartening to read about the refugees in her post, but I don't suppose she will read mine to know how I feel.

As I've been helping the refugees for some considerable time (years in fact) I am pleased to hear that more people are taking notice at last.

Ana Sat 19-Sept-15 20:08:22

Isn't it strange how many people say 'this is my last post on this site' or words to that effect, and yet post again very soon afterwards? confused

rosequartz Sat 19-Sept-15 20:27:51

Well, this is my last post on here!!
hmm
moon

petra Sat 19-Sept-15 20:29:32

MargaretX conveniently forgot to mention the anti immigration rallies in East Germany. Or people living in the border towns (with Austria) who's lives are being disrupted by the constant flo through their towns, and can't speak out because they are called Natzi's. These are not my words, this is what I'm reading.
Not all Germans are in favour of this mass immigration, other people have a right to voice their opinions.

whitewave Sat 19-Sept-15 20:30:38

Are they immigrants or refugees?

Ana Sat 19-Sept-15 20:36:34

Well, that seems to be a debateable question...

whitewave Sat 19-Sept-15 20:41:29

It matters hugely to them though. I thought that the UN said they must have refugee status, as they are fleeing war?

rosequartz Sat 19-Sept-15 20:54:35

It's a difficult one; has it been decided what they are doing about this under the present crisis?

Generally speaking, I think they are all known as migrants, then can seek asylum under the 1951 Refugee Convention on the Status of Refugees upon reaching a safe haven; an asylum seeker whose application has been successful is known as a refugee.

rosequartz Sat 19-Sept-15 20:55:41

moon again

Ana Sat 19-Sept-15 20:58:57

Of course those who are fleeing war should have refugee status, whitewave, I was referring to the questions raised in the media about whether they are all in fact fleeing from war and/or persecution.

whitewave Sat 19-Sept-15 21:01:08

Oh