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Katek Fri 28-Aug-15 08:32:59

I could hardly believe it when I looked at the news on my phone this morning to discover that 70 people had died in the back of the lorry in Austria. It's appalling, how can one human being allow this to happen to another?

merlotgran Wed 09-Sept-15 09:09:18

Where do you suppose we could have sought it, Nellie? hmm

Nelliemoser Wed 09-Sept-15 09:05:25

I blame the Irish look how many of them invaded Britain in the 1840s they started this. Perhaps we should start by repatriating all of them. They weren't really dying of starvation because of the potato blight crisis. They were just pretending their children were dying so they could come over here to take our jobs.

Only about 1 million people died and a million more emigrated from Ireland. "Well they were only Irish so it didn't matter." was almost the British attitude then.

As for Petra's And I live very close to Foulness Island where the MOD do a lot of testing. What if these Aliens get on to the island and steal bombs.

Petra do you not think that the MOD might have thought about that already? Or are you thinking about little green men in flying saucers?

Etheltags I was told today by a local person that many people are saying we will be invaded by terrorists and people are scared.

FGS GNrs stop listening to people "who say" or you "heard it on the bus."
There are a lot of people who enjoy going around spreading alarm.
I think it was an offence in the last war to spread panic.

Yes there is a serioius risk here at present I am not denying that.
There were very serious terrorist times in the 1970s from Irish republicans with a lot of killings on the mainland.
We need some perspective and compassion here.
It could so easily have been us seeking refuge in WW2.

magpie123 Wed 09-Sept-15 09:02:21

vegasmag What kind of man would leave their wife and baby, only a coward.

NfkDumpling Wed 09-Sept-15 08:42:59

I found CelticRose's link yesterday (8.41) very interesting. Thank you CR it explained a lot.

petra Wed 09-Sept-15 07:36:48

If there ever was a wife and baby.

Anya Wed 09-Sept-15 01:57:49

And what happened to the wife and baby I wonder?

durhamjen Tue 08-Sept-15 23:30:03

It is quite densely populated, 650 psm in UK and 333 in Denmark. I would not call that sparse. It's just a very small area compared to here. It consists of lots of small islands, but that does not make it inhospitable, any more than Scotland. In fact it is flat like East Anglia, so good for growing crops, etc.
What makes you think the climate is worse than here? My son has been on holiday there, and it was 27 degrees most of the time when it was raining and miserable here. I think you have the wrong country, Penstemmon.

Penstemmon Tue 08-Sept-15 23:18:02

Did you ever think that the reason that Denmark is not densely populated is because the land is not hospitable due to the climate?

vegasmags Tue 08-Sept-15 22:17:58

This is a link to a story in the Manchester Evening News about a recently arrived Syrian man, who fled in fear of his life after the murder of his brother, leaving his wife and baby behind.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/syria-manchester-how-refugee-suffered-10007572

His video interview is very moving, especially when he describes what he calls the 'holocaust' of Syria.

petra Tue 08-Sept-15 21:32:45

And I live very close to Foulness Island where the MOD do a lot of testing. What if these Aliens get on to the island and steal bombs.
I'm going to build a shelter at the bottom of the garden. ��

etheltbags1 Tue 08-Sept-15 20:57:25

pogs I was told today by a local person that many people are saying we will be invaded by terrorists and people are scared.

merlotgran Tue 08-Sept-15 20:42:50

I've always thought we give away far too much information. Is a blow by blow account necessary when national security is at stake? Did RAF Waddington have to me mentioned?

Ana Tue 08-Sept-15 20:35:06

This is getting laughable - 'he' killed them did he? Personally?

durhamjen Tue 08-Sept-15 20:32:13

They might not have done, but they certainly will now Cameron has told them he killed some of them.
I read today that one of the ones he said he'd killed last month was supposed to have been killed in July.

POGS Tue 08-Sept-15 20:29:50

Lucky girl

'Do people really think refugees are aiming to infiltrate the west with terrorists'

At the beginning of this year both the governments of Libya and Egypt gave warning of this happening.

I think it is more likely this is happening than not. Why wouldn't IS do it, after all Europe has made is so easy to do.

Ana Tue 08-Sept-15 19:56:37

They do with double square brackets. But there's no need any more since GNHQ updated its link 'friendliness'!

durhamjen Tue 08-Sept-15 19:52:09

Yes, I've read it, rose. As I said above, this is the new right wing government saying that. There was an election in July, I think, and although the previous PM, Kinnock's daughter in law, leads the biggest party, the right wing formed a bigger coalition.
However, Denmark still takes in more and give more to refugees than this country does.
The link you gave is the government response; the link I gave is the people's response. Just as I do not wish my name to be linked to Cameron's response, my Danish family do not wish to be linked to the Danish government response.
By the way, it's best not to put brackets round links, as they do not come up with brackets.

Ana Tue 08-Sept-15 19:51:43

Yes, the UK is more than three times the size of Denmark, but the population density per square km of the UK is 262.00 compared to Denmark's 130.90.

So they have more space for extra people.

TriciaF Tue 08-Sept-15 19:41:51

Denmark is a small country with less than 6m people.

rosequartz Tue 08-Sept-15 18:41:25

There is also this link djen
Not really welcoming the refugees with open arms.

[http://www.thelocal.dk/20150907/denmarks-anti-refugee-ads-published-in-foreign-papers]

TerriBull Tue 08-Sept-15 18:36:11

According to today's Independent, the Danish government are placing advertisements in newspapers in Lebanon discouraging potential migrants who are contemplating going to Denmark.

Ana Tue 08-Sept-15 17:58:41

Good things?

durhamjen Tue 08-Sept-15 17:58:12

www.thelocal.dk/page/view/danish-police-close-motorway-as-refugees-march-to-sweden

durhamjen Tue 08-Sept-15 17:55:22

They are. Lots of those going to Germany continue up to Denmark and Sweden. The good things do not get in our papers.

petra Tue 08-Sept-15 17:51:54

So why aren't more migrants trying to get into Denmark instead of here. Obviously it's a lot easier logistically