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Katek Fri 28-Aug-15 08:32:59

I could hardly believe it when I looked at the news on my phone this morning to discover that 70 people had died in the back of the lorry in Austria. It's appalling, how can one human being allow this to happen to another?

merlotgran Mon 14-Sept-15 09:48:55

Not putting the boot in but she did appear to be a bit gung ho with her decision to let unlimited numbers of refugees in. A risky move that was likely to cause chaos.

petra Mon 14-Sept-15 09:41:19

I'm sure Angela does have a heart. But I think reality has kicked in, and, a lot of Germans are NOT waving welcome flags.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 14-Sept-15 09:24:55

Perhaps Angela Merkel actually has a heart, like the rest of us? Germany has only asked for a pause.

God! Some people can put the boot in quickly! hmm

Anya Mon 14-Sept-15 09:16:36

This is absolutely horrendous. With so many displaced people, half of them angry young men, there is going tp be real trouble before long.

soontobe Sun 13-Sept-15 22:38:12

Totally agree petra.

There is a man locally. A very nice man.

Week 1 - We should take all the refugees

Week 2 - It is a bit of a problem but we should take them all

Week 3 - There are a lot of refugees, not sure what should happen

Week 4 - There are millions of them, and potentially millions more. Too many to cope with. What to do?

Most of us around him, were at Week 4 from the start.

NfkDumpling Sun 13-Sept-15 22:31:53

Has anyone explained to the marching refugees that they are to be shared out (maybe?). That they may have walked all the way to Germany only to be told they have been put on the Polish or Hungarian list?

petra Sun 13-Sept-15 20:56:55

How can a so called 'intelligent' woman act so irresponsibly. Anyone with half a brain could see that this was always going to end in tears.
As we speak there are still 1,000s of people making their way towards Europe on the promis of 'come one,come all' only to find that the door is shut.
Have you seen the demonstrations happening in Warsaw/ Prague / Bratislava. I knew from the moment the powers that be 'told' Europe that they had to take their share of asylum seekers that this would be the attitude in Eastern Europe. I lived there for 5 years, I know how they feel about certain people. They consider their own Roma people beyond contempt.

rosesarered Sun 13-Sept-15 20:07:41

That's why Merkel should not have said what she did, that Germany would take as many as would continue to arrive, now they are stopping them from coming, all in the same week!

MargaretX Sun 13-Sept-15 19:53:43

From Germany:They are already there the 30,000. Yesterday Munich train station broke down as 16,000 refugees stood on the platform there. Munich has no beds left, there is no time to register them and nowhere for them to sleep. The Mayor of Munich was lost for words as he stood in the middle of a throng of refugees and he could not find beds for them or feed them.
Finally they went to North Germany and almost as many have arived to day. The helpers are still helping and dishing out food but the clothing is too large. There is shortage of clothes for the slim Syrian men.

Fr Merkel had to rescue the situation and can be forgiven for not realising how many would actually come.

rosequartz Sun 13-Sept-15 17:24:56

act.thesyriacampaign.org/sign/we-want-to-go-home?source=fb&referring_akid=247.6835.cPl0ri

From the viewpoint of a young Syrian.

Luckygirl Sun 13-Sept-15 17:11:31

My reference to WW2 related to the fact that several nations got together to work out how refugees could be accommodated.

POGS Sun 13-Sept-15 16:48:24

Germany has now introduced border controls. Trains have been temporarily stopped from Austria.

I am still of the opinion that Germany unilaterally decided to suspend the Dublin Agreement yet it now is saying the Dublin Agreement must be adhered to.

I have asked many times and will keep asking how the supposed 800.000 refugees Germany has said it will take can be done when Merkel said only last week Germany will take 31.000 refugees over 2 years, when she gave a joint media interview with Hollande who said France will take 24.000 refugees.

Eleanorre Sun 13-Sept-15 11:13:15

I felt so proud to see a photograph of a refugee on our local 'help the refugees' website of a man holding up the palm of his hand. On it was written " thank you Scotland " . Nice to see the aid is getting through.

durhamjen Sat 12-Sept-15 17:26:22

Has anyone else noticed this?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34223795

Not sure what I think about it.

Nelliemoser Sat 12-Sept-15 17:05:03

Penstemmon I saw that on t'internet and was about to work out how to post the link. The before and after photos of a street in Syria are really horrifying as they show just how much damage has been done.

durhamjen Sat 12-Sept-15 15:05:31

Yes, I saw similar photos on websites I look at, Penstemmon.

But what I also saw this morning was an article saying that people interviewed would rather go back to that than stay on the Lebanon. I found it quite heartbreaking.

Penstemmon Sat 12-Sept-15 14:50:30

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Anyone still wondering why ordinary people want to escape from the place that was home?

rosequartz Thu 10-Sept-15 10:47:36

confused now margaretx
You seemed to be refuting hidge's statement that we are a small island when you said that we are only pretending to be some little island

I did confirm that we are not just one small island, but several; however last time I looked Doggerland had disappeared under water - Bill Bryson is quite correct!

rosesarered Wed 09-Sept-15 23:31:00

We are indeed a small island, Bill Bryson ( another immigrant!) has written a book with that title' Notes From A Small Island' smile

MargaretX Wed 09-Sept-15 23:15:27

Rosenquartz Those facts that you correct come from Hidge not from me. I was referring to her/his post.
Gald to hear you did O level geopgraphy, I didn't, I only did physics and chemistry and had to leave geography behind.
See you can always learn something on GN.

rosequartz Wed 09-Sept-15 19:43:09

The Uk can't just sit back and pretend its some little island
confused
I know I only did 'O' level geography but even I know it is an island ...... or 6,289 islands

rosequartz Wed 09-Sept-15 19:40:12

You compare the UK to Australia. In comparison there are hardly any people living there. they have more sheep than people

Much of Australia is dry and uninhabitable, unless of course you want to live in the centre where it is desert, or chop down the World Heritage rainforests.

Joelsnan Wed 09-Sept-15 19:34:41

During the previous two world wars the population of the UK was almost at starvation point. I wonder how we would cope in a similar situation today when our population is growing at such a fast rate and we are building on more and more land, even gardens (which grew vegetables or kept animals during the war) are now much smaller. The probability that the UK would become embroiled in another war cannot be dismissed. Could we endure another war without starvation based on our current population?

merlotgran Wed 09-Sept-15 18:44:05

There may be plenty of green and empty spaces but they don't have any buildings/shops/schools/work/transport. hmm

Ana Wed 09-Sept-15 18:37:18

But the UK is a little island...confused

(together with several even smaller islands)