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What would "Dads Army" do and deal with the Migrants by the tunnel

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12Michael Fri 21-Aug-15 18:56:04

Using the original cast , what tasks would the platoon take if they manned the Channel Tunnel at Folkestone,
For example would the spiv be selling his wears to those he lets through.
Mick

Jane10 Sun 23-Aug-15 14:53:27

So what should happen? Hundreds of thousands of people (probably more) from the Middle East and Africa just all migrate wholesale to Europe. Leave the oppressors back home to just take over completely. Give the green light to unspeakable people traffickers peddling "the dream" of a perfect life in Europe? In UK? Why not?

soontobe Sun 23-Aug-15 14:52:16

I dont believe in staying in a country if you have the option of leaving. If the good guys leave, it leaves the bad behaviour people there.

soontobe Sun 23-Aug-15 14:50:38

If enough people get out in the first instance, they are then left to fight amongst themselves.

soontobe Sun 23-Aug-15 14:47:52

But if it is a small area that you are escaping from? And you have little hope of beating them?

Anya Sun 23-Aug-15 14:43:26

Just as well soldiers didn't feel like that during WW2 S2B but then some people are quite content to leave the bravery to others and just take the benefits when it's all over!

soontobe Sun 23-Aug-15 14:37:50

I dont see the point in being a sitting duck.

soontobe Sun 23-Aug-15 14:37:13

I almost think that it is their duty to try and escape. Not sure.

soontobe Sun 23-Aug-15 14:34:40

I am never sure if I would stay or go.

If you go, you have a chance of getting other family members out too I would have thought.

Jane10 Sun 23-Aug-15 14:27:32

Anniebach I'd bide my time. Keep a low profile and keep my eyes open as to what's going on. Just as in every war with oppressors since time began, opposition gradually grows. I'd want to be a part of that. If I was a man I'd try to keep working doing whatever is necessary. If possible I'd try to have a "useful" occupation that didn't draw attention to myself. I'd try to model myself on those brave people currently living there that are part of an underground network rescuing captured women. It won't happen overnight but it will happen in time if people of good will stay and band together.
If I was a woman (which I am!) I'd keep a very low profile indeed and burka myself up when outside! You do what you do and you do what you have to.
vampirequeen these migrants are not Jewish? I don't understand your comment. Our men in the last war were every creed and colour and didn't try to run away.

Stansgran Sun 23-Aug-15 14:24:56

I wish I could find out who the young Kurdish woman is on the the front of the Sunday Times magazine. I met a young woman a few years ago who was a Kurd and I felt immediately it was her photo.

Jane10 Sun 23-Aug-15 14:17:24

Absolutely Anya! Lets get the children safe but not give up the fight. Go the Kurds!

Anya Sun 23-Aug-15 13:58:02

Someone has to start the fight back and who better than the young men? And, in the case of the Kurds, the young women. If the Kurdish 'nation' can stand and fight back, why not others?

It's those with families to protect who need our help most urgently. This picture moved me to tears sad

vampirequeen Sun 23-Aug-15 13:54:51

You can't judge these young men by the standards of Pike. He would have been classed as racially pure so would have been safe....well as safe as you can be in an occupied country. It would have been totally different had Pike been Jewish. Then he would have had to escape or be killed.

Anniebach Sun 23-Aug-15 13:48:21

Jane10, if you were a young man in Syria how would you start the fight back? how would you win a victory over ISIS, you have no money, no arms

Jane10 Sun 23-Aug-15 13:41:21

My problem is not with the children or women. Its the huge crowds of fit young men crowding the boats and first at the gates. How can their home countries ever be turned back to places fit to live in if the young and strong abandon their homes and families in this 'me first, I dream of living in UK' sort of way? I was horrified to read last week of a boat with 450 people on it-this was said to contain only 10 women and children. How brave of those men. In our last wars the conscientious objectors didn't bale out.

merlotgran Sun 23-Aug-15 12:54:09

I know about the kindertransport, Anniebach and how those with money had an advantage but they still kept their departure from Nazi Germany as quiet as possible.

Anniebach Sun 23-Aug-15 12:41:21

Merlotgran, those with money did leave by sea , children were taken into this country if the parents paid . Persecuted people are persecuted people no matter then or now

Stansgran Sun 23-Aug-15 12:30:15

I am with Jane10 in that I see so many pictures at Calais of people who should be protecting and supporting their families not trying to flee from them and yes I think the Dads army attitude of tea and billets is the one I feel we should really be aiming for. I do feel the French are behaving really badly and if it were the other way round ie people trying to get through to France and blocking up Dover we would not tolerate such mismanagement

merlotgran Sun 23-Aug-15 12:24:44

I don't really think this situation can be compared to the Jews in Nazi Germany. Those lucky enough to escape did so by stealth or by help from Jewish organisations or underground workers. They didn't arrive in their thousands demanding to be let in.

Theirs was certain death if they were discovered or betrayed.

It was a different time.

Anniebach Sun 23-Aug-15 12:04:03

Like the Jews did in Germany? Yes those were the days

Jane10 Sun 23-Aug-15 11:49:56

One thing the young men back then, the Pikes, wouldn't have done was pile into boats in numbers massively outnumbering women and children and set off for America or somewhere perceived as safe.....
Wouldn't have occurred to Pike to cut and run. Those young men stayed and fought and won. Those were the days.

Elegran Sun 23-Aug-15 09:18:47

Neither was I, rose. My post was a response to the comment that the situation was not a comedy one, and my point was that the setting for Dad's Army was not a comedy one either. That was life and death for the whole country, but the series treated it with humour and compassion and created some memorable characters as a result.

We can speculate on how those characters would react without losing any of said compassion.

rosequartz Sat 22-Aug-15 09:50:51

Oh, I wasn't thinking of it as an 'invasion by an enemy'; I thought you meant how would Dad's Army have dealt with a flood of refugees fleeing persecution through the Channel tunnel.

So my previous post still stands but in that light.

Anniebach Sat 22-Aug-15 09:43:48

Quite sure lovely Wilson would say ' would you mind awfully turning back , you are seen as a threat to our standard of living, awfully sorry '

thatbags Sat 22-Aug-15 08:35:53

jane10 grin

elegran, exactly.