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What would "Dads Army" do and deal with the Migrants by the tunnel

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12Michael Fri 21-Aug-15 18:56:04

Using the original cast , what tasks would the platoon take if they manned the Channel Tunnel at Folkestone,
For example would the spiv be selling his wears to those he lets through.
Mick

fluttERBY123 Sun 23-Aug-15 22:34:42

Jane10 - re the fit young men abandoning families. More likely they are being sent by the families as the people most likely to succeed. The young men are probably hoping to be able to send money back to the families left behind and in time to be able to bring them to Europe as well.

Ana Sun 23-Aug-15 22:35:46

Exactly. Why should it be OK for someone to criticise our way of life just because some people in the UK criticise theirs? There's no excuse for rudeness or bad manners on either side.

Anya Sun 23-Aug-15 22:37:25

Petra I'd give up trying to argue logically with someone who is apparently missing that particular gene! wink

Anniebach Sun 23-Aug-15 22:40:39

Too funny Anya, to insult during a discussion on how offensive it is to insult by criticising

Anya Sun 23-Aug-15 22:44:39

Annie so glad you are not missing the irony gene too!

merlotgran Sun 23-Aug-15 22:57:39

Forgive me for being thick but this wholesome image of young men sending money back to their families and then 'sending for them' is a tad confusing.

If their families are living under persecution, how do they get the money back to them? A cheque in the post, internet banking, carrier pigeon?

When they send for their loved ones, how do they get them out? Do they subject them to the same ordeal they suffered at the hands at the traffickers or is there a more comfortable option?

Just wondering.

Anniebach Sun 23-Aug-15 23:01:03

I don't see a wholesome image, I see desperate people and I hear a msn say we are human too

merlotgran Sun 23-Aug-15 23:03:47

So you don't know either, Anniebach hmm

Anya Sun 23-Aug-15 23:10:21

LOL

rosequartz Sun 23-Aug-15 23:13:58

www.mercycorps.org/articles/turkey-iraq-jordan-lebanon-syria/quick-facts-what-you-need-know-about-syria-crisis

And of course, it is not just Syrians.
I should imagine most of these people would like to see their country at peace and to go home again.

It is a huge humanitarian crisis.

How many refugees has the US taken?

Anniebach Sun 23-Aug-15 23:15:03

Don't know what Merlotgran?

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 23-Aug-15 23:20:05

migrants do send money home

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 23-Aug-15 23:23:11

money sent home

rosequartz Sun 23-Aug-15 23:24:35

Refugees are different to migrants. They are not migrating through choice.

Although the OP does state migrants which is confusing.

Anniebach Sun 23-Aug-15 23:33:18

We don't know if the men are married or have left families behind, they may be single men travelling with brothers or sisters, we just assume because they are not with women and children they have left wives and children behind, am sure there are groups of single men too

merlotgran Sun 23-Aug-15 23:36:46

You can include me out in your assumptions, Anniebach

Anniebach Sun 23-Aug-15 23:43:42

Merlotgran, I am not assuming, I say we assume because I don't like to say you assume

soontobe Sun 23-Aug-15 23:43:45

I do indeed work out some of my thought as I write them down.

If most people doing good behaviour have left a country, it makes it a lot easier to deal with the people doing the bad behaviour.
It saves innocent people being killed.
Also, they are not used as human shields.
So if families are able to leave, then good.

POGS Mon 24-Aug-15 00:25:20

Isn't it about time the United Nations stepped in and if you are fleeing for your life I am sure you wouldn't object to going to say Russia, China, India, Khazakstan, Saudi Arabia, Dubai. What are they doing to take in migrants/refugees.

My problem is the fact that landing on safe shores and leaving the bombing is not the aim. The aim is to make much further travels to get to specific countries. I think those who escaped from Nazi occupation would have been just happy to get out of Germany full stop. Anything, anywhere was a sheer bonus for their survival.

absent Mon 24-Aug-15 06:45:16

It is always interesting and salutary when people talk about what they would do in some dire situation or, indeed, what the people in the dire situation should do. I once edited a book which constantly referred to collaborators in Nazi-occupied Europe when speaking about people who simply kept their heads down and carried on doing the jobs they had done and, as far as possible, the lives they had lived pre-war. The author had no family – older or younger. I had a husband and a baby, plus an extended family all of whom I loved and, while I would like to think I would be brave and strong-minded enough to find a way to fight tyranny, I am not at all confident that I would be, given my hostages to fortune and, no doubt, my own cowardice. I didn't see these people as collaborators – they weren't choosing deliberately to help the occupying power – but were protecting themselves, their husbands, wives, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers and children and simply trying to get through a horrendous time.

I cannot imagine what it must be like to live in a country torn apart by civil war or frequently bombed by a neighbouring – or even not-so-neighbouring – state. I cannot imagine what it must be like not to have enough to eat and there not being anywhere to obtain enough to eat even if I had the money to buy it. I cannot imagine having to watch every word I say or write for fear of the knock on the door. I cannot imagine being imprisoned, raped or beaten for being the wrong ethnicity. I cannot imagine many of the things that are a day-to-day reality for many refugees. I cannot imagine what I would do, what I would encourage my family to do and how the hell I would go about it.

thatbags Mon 24-Aug-15 06:55:09

I think young men are the most likely to try to get away from a horrible situation where they probably feel powerless because they are the people with the freedom and the energy to do so.

soontobe Mon 24-Aug-15 07:46:20

Good last posts.

Jane10 Mon 24-Aug-15 08:00:11

VG suggestion from POGS. Lets encourage migrants/refugees /everyone to go to China, Russia, Kazakhstan etc!! As previously stated, meanwhile ISIS marches on...

soontobe Mon 24-Aug-15 08:10:49

They would only have themselves left to kill..

petra Mon 24-Aug-15 08:11:27

Jane10. Bit of a problem with that suggestion. None of those countries has a 'uman rights charter. Most of the people trying to get here are very aware of what slaves we are to the charter.