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What or Pardon-Neither!!!!

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trisher Tue 14-Jul-15 10:59:45

There's a Gransnet poll on facebook asking would you say "What" or "Pardon". I'm sorry but if you said "Pardon" when I was growing up you would be answered by "Why? What have you done?" Pardon is used to apologise when you have done something socially unacceptable. "What" is plain rude. The correct form of speech if you don't hear is "Excuse me I didn't hear." or "I'm sorry I didn't hear". Come on Gransnet get someone who at least knows how to use language. What really surprised me was 74% said they would say "Pardon" Really!!!

Gemmag Tue 14-Jul-15 18:09:10

"I'm sorry or "I beg your pardon'' will do fine. "What" is just rude and "Pardon" is for people who just don't have good manners! blush

Alea Tue 14-Jul-15 17:54:51

Someone, and I have forgotten who, said "'Pardon' is fit only for talking to servants or dogs

Why on earth would you want to say "What/pardon/excuse me" to dogs ?

My dog makes herself understood perfectly easily and if I don't' "get" what she is "saying" , she just barks louder !

Bellanonna Tue 14-Jul-15 17:42:55

Feetelebaum, I M far too polite to say what to the servants. I find "eh?" Works perfectly well.

TerriBull Tue 14-Jul-15 17:39:09

What?" really should suffice, but unfortunately it can sound a bit blunt and rude and if I remember rightly I was told off for that very reason when uttering what when I was a child instead of the unnecessary but more acceptable "pardon" which since then has obviously subliminally taken root as far as I'm concerned. Although I think I probably use "what" with people I'm very familiar with.

numberplease Tue 14-Jul-15 17:38:14

My husband just says "Eh?"!!

Ana Tue 14-Jul-15 17:33:14

I rest my case.

Jane10 Tue 14-Jul-15 17:26:58

Surely you mean 'snobbish'?
grin

Ana Tue 14-Jul-15 17:24:01

What a horribly snobby thread this is...hmm

feetlebaum Tue 14-Jul-15 17:07:14

Someone, and I have forgotten who, said "'Pardon' is fit only for talking to servants or dogs..."

Gracesgran Tue 14-Jul-15 16:04:38

I tend to say "Sorry?" or "say again". My excuse for the second, which some of you don't like, is that I do come from a military family.

I was always taught that 'Pardon' was very non U So was I HildaW. It's what the nanny taught the children and the parents then had to undo grin

Jane10 Tue 14-Jul-15 15:52:44

Say again is perfectly clear. Probably the best thing for radio operators to use.

Bellanonna Tue 14-Jul-15 14:56:18

I thought say again was a military phrase?
I always say "I'm sorry?" Or "I beg your pardon?" What belongs to the upper echelons though I do also shout it to my husband.

petra Tue 14-Jul-15 14:33:40

When I took my VHF radio licence exam we were told to use 'say again' if we didn't hear or understand something. I should have asked why.

LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 14-Jul-15 14:28:56

trisher it was indeed based on a past Gransnet thread grin

HildaW Tue 14-Jul-15 13:45:09

I was always taught that 'Pardon' was very non U.

granjura Tue 14-Jul-15 13:33:32

like anno, it depends totally on context and whom I am speaking with/to.
We all speak several 'languages', with different registers- depending on the audience. Many of us also have several accents depending on audience too- I can still speak my broadest local Swiss accent (Neuchâtel) including local words and expressions and also lose it totally when required (which I had to to teach French in the UK and also for jobs).

And to some extent the same in English- I do not speak the same with my Surrey relatives as I do with some of my old friends from Stoke or Leicester - I can do a bit of Brum and Liverpool- but tried and tried Geordie and cannot do that at all, probably because I've never lived in North East.

kittylester Tue 14-Jul-15 13:16:12

and, I was taught that pardon was short for 'I beg your pardon, I didn't hear what you said!'

I was taught that by Mrs Bucket my mother and we all know that she is always correct!

Jane10 Tue 14-Jul-15 13:13:34

I beg your pardon! Not just pardon on its own!

Ana Tue 14-Jul-15 13:10:57

Thanks jingl. But I think I can live with it...wink

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 14-Jul-15 12:49:08

Why trisher? I was sympathising with Ana!

thatbags Tue 14-Jul-15 12:45:09

Ah yes, "Sorry?" I use that all the time.

trisher Tue 14-Jul-15 12:40:37

Now that might be considered bad manners jbf!
Just discovered this survey probably came from a past discussion on mumsnet.
Now i really am sorry I drew attention to it!!!!

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 14-Jul-15 12:34:52

Shite!

Ana Tue 14-Jul-15 12:27:17

Oh dear, my family has been been using English incorrectly all these years...hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 14-Jul-15 12:20:15

I usually say "sorry" in a questioning tone. Unless it's DH. He gets 'wot?'