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I’m horrified at Steve Whikoff’s remark

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NanKate Wed 21-Oct-26 15:37:09

He says that after his meeting with Putin he would describe him as ‘a Humanitarian’.

I feel sickened at how many people side with that murdering b*****d.

Grandmabatty Wed 21-Oct-26 15:50:49

He's following Trump so it doesn't surprise me. His name is Witkoff. I had to Google him because I had no idea who he was. Just another sycophant

foxie48 Wed 21-Oct-26 15:54:18

If Putin is a humanitarian, Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize! How these people can look at themselves in the mirror in the morning is beyond me, their brains are being eaten up by the lies they tell. Putin has finally released an American from prison this man was living in Ukraine when Putin started his war so the Russians put him in prison when he was guilty of absolutely nothing!!

Marydoll Wed 21-Oct-26 15:57:35

Putin is a war criminal, no other way to describe him.

Nan Kate, I was thinking about you this morning, what a coincidence.
So pleased to see you posting.

Gmax3 Wed 21-Oct-26 15:57:46

Even a MAGA I know has said how awful Putin is.
I don't think trump realizes that some of his base are smart enough to truly abhor Putin.

Sarnia Wed 21-Oct-26 15:59:09

Poor President Zelensky. He is asking for a meeting but he will never get a fair hearing.
I suppose the American was released as a thank you for the fuel deal.

Maremia Wed 21-Oct-26 16:01:06

Witless Witkoff

Fallingstar Wed 21-Oct-26 16:05:31

Bloody hell!!
Excuse the French.
Never thought I would see this day.
I think we can all now establish who Trump’s latest bro romance is with. Seems the US no longer sees Russia as the enemy but rather an ally which leaves the Ukraine and Europe as the enemy. Because he can’t jump in bed with both and it looks like his decision has been made.
So now Europe lies exposed to Putin’s expansionist ideas. Correction, Europe lies exposed to this ‘humanitarian’s expansionist ideas.
🤬🤬🤬

Fallingstar Wed 21-Oct-26 16:07:04

Of course some leaders were apologists for Hitler.

Cossy Wed 21-Oct-26 16:11:46

Marydoll

Putin is a war criminal, no other way to describe him.

Nan Kate, I was thinking about you this morning, what a coincidence.
So pleased to see you posting.

I agree

Cossy Wed 21-Oct-26 16:12:08

Fallingstar

Bloody hell!!
Excuse the French.
Never thought I would see this day.
I think we can all now establish who Trump’s latest bro romance is with. Seems the US no longer sees Russia as the enemy but rather an ally which leaves the Ukraine and Europe as the enemy. Because he can’t jump in bed with both and it looks like his decision has been made.
So now Europe lies exposed to Putin’s expansionist ideas. Correction, Europe lies exposed to this ‘humanitarian’s expansionist ideas.
🤬🤬🤬

👍👍👏👏👏👏

NanKate Wed 21-Oct-26 17:04:33

Apologies on incorrect spelling, it is as you say Witkoff 👍

Hello Marydoll good to see you here too 👋

Whitewavemark2 Wed 21-Oct-26 17:06:52

There can be no question now that Trump supports Putin. I worry very much what this will mean for Europe.

Aveline Wed 21-Oct-26 17:19:38

Surely, surely the mid term elections should mark Trump's card? He's a traitor to humanity and Putin is simply inhuman.

Fallingstar Wed 21-Oct-26 17:31:06

Aveline

Surely, surely the mid term elections should mark Trump's card? He's a traitor to humanity and Putin is simply inhuman.

My guess is Trump has done a deal with the devil and thrown the Ukraine and Europe under the bus in order for Putin to negotiate with ally Iran to agree to end the war thereby allowing Trump to take all the credit as a peacemaker who has struck the deal in order to ensure that Americans pay less at the pumps.
But Putin will expect his pound of flesh so Ukraine and other European countries should be worried.
Of course Trump is hoping this will happen in time for the midterms.
Will Putin oblige??
We can only wait and see.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 21-Oct-26 17:51:04

Has this got something to do with President Putin releasing the 74 year old American Stephen Hubbard?

He has been in prison in Russia for the last four years, for allegedly mining a checkpoint in Ukraine.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 21-Oct-26 17:51:33

runing not mining 😡

Dickens Wed 21-Oct-26 17:54:29

Ironic that you can kid people who were once so damning and fearful of "commies" and socialists - still viewed with disgust by many - that "Put'n" is now their ally and even that "Yurup" is the enemy.

valdali Wed 21-Oct-26 19:07:43

Sarnia

Poor President Zelensky. He is asking for a meeting but he will never get a fair hearing.
I suppose the American was released as a thank you for the fuel deal.

released to help Trump with the mid-terms?

An easy way to try & influence USA voters. No wonder Russia invested in trying to get Trump elected, he must have surpassed their highest hopes.

Dickens Wed 21-Oct-26 22:05:04

valdali

Sarnia

Poor President Zelensky. He is asking for a meeting but he will never get a fair hearing.
I suppose the American was released as a thank you for the fuel deal.

released to help Trump with the mid-terms?

An easy way to try & influence USA voters. No wonder Russia invested in trying to get Trump elected, he must have surpassed their highest hopes.

I maintain that Trump is entirely shaped by his upbringing. It's widely understood that his father instilled his own brand of toughness on Donald and his siblings who were encouraged to be "killers" or "kings" in business and, allegedly, viewed traits like empathy, kindness or apologising, as weaknesses. The older brother I read sometime ago wanted to become an airline pilot, apparently, rather than enter the family property business, and was ridiculed for his 'weakness'.

I don't want to indulge in psycho-babble, however - maybe that's where Donald Trump learned to gain approval - by emulating his father's scorn and contempt for anything and anybody that didn't fit into the all-encompassing need to 'win' at all costs. It could explain his seemingly extremely fragile ego and the need for constant admiration and approval?

In which case, his unsuitability to be one of the most powerful men in the world, is really down to his inner circle of backers and supporters who must, surely, be aware of his almost pathological 'disposition'?

These are just my random thoughts, and purely subjective.

Fallingstar Wed 21-Oct-26 22:21:19

Oh I don’t know Dickens, your analysis sounds pretty good, but it keeps coming back to one thing for me. Voters in the US voted this man in twice, when he shouldn’t even have passed muster to deliver newspapers. Every business he entered into usually failed. He is not leadership material. In fact he should never work with people. Or speak where others can hear him.
But he is the president of the US and so causing monumental damage around the world.
How did it happen?
Why do voters think this man is worth voting for?
I find this more incredible than if an alien came down to earth and shook hands with me.

MayBee70 Wed 21-Oct-26 22:22:36

Nothing surprises me any more sad. Have we ever had a time before when the POTUS is on the news every day? And never for anything good.