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I find these statistics very surprising - re Disabled people

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grannyonce Wed 24-Jun-15 06:48:45

I had no idea that so many pensioners were classed as disabled?
these figures come from the Livability website:- ( I wonder what their criteria for disability is if it is accepted that 'oldies' do deteriorate as they age)

There are around 11.9 million disabled people in the UK; this is roughly 19% of the population.

The prevalence of disability rises with age: approximately 5% (800,000) of children, 16% (5.8m) of working age adults and 45% (5.3m) of people of State Pension age are disabled.

At least 56% of all disabled people have an impairment relating to mobility.

4 out of 5 disabled people acquire their disability during their lives.

By 2020 it is estimated that nearly 60% of people over 50 will have a long-term health condition.

that last estimate is very worrying as it places a huge burden on the NHS and care provision. shock

durhamjen Fri 26-Jun-15 14:51:39

www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD0QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.labour.org.uk%2Fblog%2Fentry%2Fa-better-future-for-disabled-people-manifesto&ei=mFiNVZ22OcyLsAGoxb_YCQ&usg=AFQjCNHhM7SlClgNCT9afAg1wu3mjJPSdg&bvm=bv.96782255,d.bGg

Perhaps you ought to have read the Labour party manifesto.

rosesarered Fri 26-Jun-15 13:59:14

Ana grin yes, good one!
granny once, one link is ok! As long as it's one link per week.

grannyonce Fri 26-Jun-15 13:25:38

DJ - the protestors at PMQ had failed to realise the inevitable whoever was in power
www.disabilitynewsservice.com/labour-finally-admits-wont-save-independent-living-fund/.
sorry if the link is not correct according to your standards
everybody else - sorry about the link I know they can be tedious.
FWIW - no-one is denying the needs of the severely disabled - they deserve all the help they get but the ILF is not being 'scrapped'.

thatbags Fri 26-Jun-15 13:07:37

I wonder if some people think disabled parking is only for people in wheelchairs or on crutches?

thatbags Fri 26-Jun-15 13:06:47

Bamm flowers

Bamm Fri 26-Jun-15 13:01:47

My husband, who died last year, had a blue badge. He had been ill for 10 years with a bone marrow disease that required regular blood and platelet infusions, was registered blind and had kidney failure. His mobility was seriously impaired and he had early onset dementia. When I took him out in the car we were constantly challenged by people demanding to know if we were entitled to park in a disabled space , even outside our own house. Unless one's disability is immediately visible people are very quick to judge.

Anya Fri 26-Jun-15 07:06:19

grin

Ana Thu 25-Jun-15 23:15:56

But not necessarilly all here! grin

rosesarered Thu 25-Jun-15 23:13:38

At least we're still here!

Ana Thu 25-Jun-15 22:33:07

I didn't.

durhamjen Thu 25-Jun-15 22:14:01

"By 2020 it is estimated that nearly 60% of people over 50 will have a long-term health condition."

How many of us had a long-term health condition when we reached 50?

I did.

loopylou Thu 25-Jun-15 21:20:26

That's written me off thenapricot along with 99% of the population!

apricot Thu 25-Jun-15 20:24:12

These statistics sound ridiculous and could be based on questions devised by a 25 year old and interpreted like this:
Can you run a mile?
Are your sight and hearing 100% ?
Can you remember what you had for dinner on 3rd December?
Have you taken any medicine in the past 30 days?
Ok, you're disabled but don't expect any help because this country's broke.
My cynicism is based on being told I was "inactive" by a health professional because I don't go to a gym.

thatbags Thu 25-Jun-15 07:54:28

It's really a bit "scoffy". Just saying.

thatbags Thu 25-Jun-15 07:52:36

PS, flickety, I think your tight rope walking analogy is silly. Posts on this thread have been about ordinary disabilities that badly affect ordinary everyday life.

Grannyknot Thu 25-Jun-15 07:51:42

I sometimes use old-fashioned expressions! I looked up the meaning of "hale and hearty" and it means free from infirmities grin or in very good health. Sounds good to me smile

thatbags Thu 25-Jun-15 07:50:27

Yes, flickety, the difference between a person having a disability, or several, is not the same as being a disabled person, though it could be a very subtle difference at times, or even no difference at all. It is not clear from the OP whether that distinction was made in the statistics given.

I would not call the fact that, on average, old people need more medical care than young people a 'drain' on the NHS; I would just call that a fact of life and something government needs to take into consideration when applying funding.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jun-15 23:19:49

dpac.uk.net/

This will tell you about disability, and why the group were lobbying parliament today.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jun-15 22:49:25

I've got enough long-term health conditions to make up for you, Anya.

Anya Wed 24-Jun-15 22:29:55

I don't have any disabilities, but I don't always feel hale or especially hearty hmm

Grannyknot Wed 24-Jun-15 21:31:40

Good post flickety. My surprise at the figures is because I would have thought a higher percentage of people over 65 are still hale and hearty, despite their bodies showing the signs of age.

FlicketyB Wed 24-Jun-15 21:17:02

I do not think anyone is disagreeing with you Thatbags. All I and some others are saying is that the figures seem very high and do not accord with our experience.

There is a difference between having a disability (like DD) and being disabled, which she is not. I am dyspraxic, which is often defined as a disability and can be disabling if it is severe. But my poor fine motor control and poor balance, which, for example, makes riding a bike possible but problematic and would definitely preclude me from tight rope walking is never going to be disabling or leave me in need of extra help or assistance, unless, of course, I take up tight rope walking

rosesarered Wed 24-Jun-15 21:04:18

Petra is right, supermarkets disabled parking spaces do not require permission, you can use them, but ethically you should not, unless you have a problem walking for some reason.If you have a blue badge, you can park anywhere, even on double yellow lines in roads.Not on red lines though.So, you don't have to drive around looking for a disabled bay to park in.
Guidelines on what is classed as disabled have changed over the years, logically, there can't be a massive increase in disabled people, so it must be the rules that have changed in order to call yourself disabled.

durhamjen Wed 24-Jun-15 17:46:26

I thought this thread would be about this.

www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/24/disability-campaigners-clash-with-police-inside-commons-over-benefit-cuts

thatbags Wed 24-Jun-15 17:17:46

The person with the damaged motor control is not a pensioner.